From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Aug 27 15:02:26 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "27" "August" "1996" "17:19:29" "-0400" "Daniel Zen" "DanielZ@mamamedia.com" nil "25" "ANGE-FTP hostname completion" "^From:" nil nil "8" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA15094 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:02:26 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA41758 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:02:25 -0700 Received: from park.interport.net (park.interport.net [199.184.165.2]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id OAA10453; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:19:35 -0700 Received: from interport.net (root@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09522; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prophet.MaMaMedia.com ([206.98.237.35]) by interport.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00306; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960827211929.006ae97c@interport.net> X-Sender: danielz@interport.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Daniel Zen To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Cc: szurgot@itribe.net, voelker@cs.washington.edu Subject: ANGE-FTP hostname completion Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:19:29 -0400 Whoops: (setq ange-ftp-tmp-name-template (concat (getenv "TEMP") "/ange-ftp") ange-ftp-gateway-tmp-name-template (concat (getenv "TEMP") "/ange-ftp") ) should be: (setq ange-ftp-tmp-name-template (concat (expand-file-name (getenv "TEMP")) "/ange-ftp") ange-ftp-gateway-tmp-name-template (concat (expand-file-name (getenv "TEMP")) "/ange-ftp") ) so that references to /tmp/ are eliminated. Apologies.... Daniel Zen MaMaMedia Digital Entertainment Creative Director The Soho Building Multimedia Software Engineering 110 Greene Street, Suite 805 http://www.zzz.net New York, NY 10012 212-334-3277 212-334-3276 (fax) From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Sep 17 13:43:21 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "17" "September" "1996" "15:00:32" "-0500" "Gamble Scott-G" "g10517@namerica.mot.com" nil "19" "ange-ftp and nt" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA01077 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:43:20 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA21635 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:43:18 -0700 Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [129.188.136.20]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id NAA25356 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:01:04 -0700 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate2.mot.com (8.7.3/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id TAA04469 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:57:16 GMT Received: from ilbd.mot.com (ilbd.mot.com [129.188.137.182]) by pobox.mot.com (8.7.3/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id PAA09024 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from s-il06-x.corp.mot.com by ilbd.mot.com with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA12419; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:00:18 -0500 Received: by s-il06-x.corp.mot.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BBA4A8.F9EADB80@s-il06-x.corp.mot.com>; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:00:33 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Gamble Scott-G10517 To: "'ntemacs users'" Subject: ange-ftp and nt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:00:32 -0500 I am having a problem with ange-ftp. If I do the following C-x C-f /foo@bar:some path the : between bar and some path gets interprted as c:/. I did take the ange-ftp.el, and the ftp from the site as well. Anyone know how to solve this problem???? ************************************************************************ * Scott Gamble HRIS Foundation 847-576-4899 g10517@email.mot.com ************************************************************************ * From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Sep 19 11:37:22 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "19" "September" "1996" "13:52:52" "-0400" "David Biesack" "sasdjb@unx.sas.com" nil "43" "ange ftp and Microsoft Peer Web Services FTP server" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA11913 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:37:22 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id LAA21196 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:37:16 -0700 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA06377 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:53:10 -0700 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA20423; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:53:08 -0400 Received: from lambda.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA21567; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:52:53 -0400 Received: by lambda.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA02920; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:52:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199609191752.AA02920@lambda.unx.sas.com> From: David Biesack To: ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com, ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: ange ftp and Microsoft Peer Web Services FTP server Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:52:52 -0400 Anyone try to use ange-ftp to find files on an NT (4.0 Workstation) node running MS Peer Web Services (2.0) FTP server? The MS ftp daemon seems to respond incorrectly to the ange-ftp protocol when you try to find a file: (find-file "/sasdjb@self.pc.sas.com/D/djb/cmd.cmd") This puts me in a dired mode file named cmd.cmd which has the contents: /sasdjb@self.pc.sas.com:/D/djb/cmd.cmd: ---------- 1 owner group 246 Aug 29 20:00 cmd.cmd That is, the ftp server responds to the ls -al cmd.cmd/. as if cmd.cmd where a directory, not a file. The ftp log shows: D:\djb\cmd.cmd is a file, but ange-ftp does not know that so it first checks to see if it's a directory: ftp> 200 Type set to A. ftp> ls "-al /D/djb/cmd.cmd/." /tmp/ange-ftpa18852 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. 226 Transfer complete. (The server is configured to return Unix directory listing.) >From the dired window, I can open the file fine, so I can always do a dired first, but that's kind of a pain. Anyone have fixes for the ftp daemon (or a workaround in ange ftp?) (I tried the War FTP Daemon 1.20b but could not get it to work correctly for bare ftp.) thanks -- David J. Biesack sasdjb@unx.sas.com Object Programming Technology (919) 677-8000 ext 7771 SAS Institute Inc. SAS Campus Drive Cary, NC 27513 http://www.sas.com From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Sep 19 15:14:15 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "19" "September" "1996" "17:31:05" "-0400" "David Goldschmidt" "gold@ccr-p.ida.org" nil "27" "Re: shell mode limitations " "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA15769 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:14:15 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA30751 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:14:13 -0700 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org [206.181.22.66]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id OAA10310 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:31:58 -0700 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (daemon@localhost) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id RAA26447 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccr-p.ida.org (xida.ccr-p.ida.org [198.3.6.62]) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id RAA26443 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runner.ccr-p.ida.org (runner.ccr-p.ida.org [198.3.6.2]) by ccr-p.ida.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA22532; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:31:07 -0400 Received: from runner (gold@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by runner.ccr-p.ida.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08008; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199609192131.RAA08008@runner.ccr-p.ida.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:04:23 EDT." <2.2.32.19960919170423.006e2758@ultranet.com> From: David Goldschmidt To: Paul Mitchell cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: shell mode limitations Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:31:05 -0400 >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Mitchell writes: Paul> I'm running emacs-19.34.1 under win95. Any shell I invoke via M-x Paul> shell-mode seems unable to run .bat files or even .exe files. Most Paul> .bat files fail because they run out of environment space, while Paul> when I try to compile from within shell-mode the shell process just Paul> hangs. Is anyone actually able to use shell-mode as their main Paul> command line interface under win95? I grew to like this while Paul> working on a unix box and I'd like to be able to continue to use it Paul> under win95. I fixed the environment problem by putting the following line in my config.sys: shell = c:\command.com /p /e:1000 I think the /e:xxxx sets the space for environment strings to xxxx bytes. I've had limited success with running M-x shell. I can run the djgpp port of gcc (I guess I actually ran this with M-x compile, come to think of it), I can run dir and simple stuff, but my typed commands are echoed, even after I put a line in my .emacs suggested in the FAQ which was supposed to fix this. But when I tried to run a program of mine which runs for a long time and outputs to the console frequently I didn't get any output and finally killed it (BTW this wasn't easy). I'm not sure if it bombed or if there's some sort of buffering problem. David Goldschmidt From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Oct 17 08:08:01 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "17" "October" "1996" "10:15:05" "-0400" "Jim Wilcoxson" "jim@meritnet.com" nil "14" "Ange-ftp performance" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA03723 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:08:01 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA31180 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:07:58 -0700 Received: from meritnet.com (mail.meritnet.com [206.5.219.2]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id HAA01760 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:24:54 -0700 Received: from lap.meritnet.com (user-37kb9ma.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.166.202]) by meritnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA30805 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:24:48 -0400 Message-ID: <32663F68.5114@meritnet.com> Organization: Merit Software, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Wilcoxson To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Ange-ftp performance Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:15:05 -0400 Many thanks for the Win95 port and ange-ftp stuff! Not to knock anybody's tools, but I noticed that the transfer rates of the special ftp client were pretty lousy - about .5K/sec on my 28.8 connection. After running some tests I found that ASCII mode transfers are extremely slow with this version of ftp. I added: (defvar ange-ftp-binary-file-name-regexp ".*") to my .emacs startup file so that all transfers are binary, and the transfers are 6-10x faster (100 MHz 486 laptop). This works fine for editing text files on Unix machines. I didn't see any mention of this in the mail archives or FAQ. Jim From owner-ntemacs-users@june Sat Nov 2 10:37:45 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Sat" " 2" "November" "1996" "12:56:19" "-0500" "Jim Wilcoxson" "jim@meritnet.com" nil "9" "Undo bug using ange-ftp" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA02541 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:37:45 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id KAA30454 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:37:43 -0800 Received: from meritnet.com (mail.meritnet.com [206.5.219.2]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id JAA01120 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:56:26 -0800 Received: from nt (nt.meritnet.com [206.5.219.3]) by meritnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id MAA08561 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 12:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: <327B8B43.63C5@meritnet.com> Reply-To: jim@meritnet.com Organization: Merit Software, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Wilcoxson To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Undo bug using ange-ftp Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 12:56:19 -0500 I've noticed an undo problem when using the ange-ftp extension. If you read a file using ange-ftp, delete a character, save the file, then do an undo, the undo occurs but the buffer is still tagged as unmodified. If I undo several commands (do 3 deletes, save, 3 undos), the buffer is tagged modified after the first undo but goes back to unmodified after the last one. All this works correctly on local files. Anybody have any ideas? Jim From owner-ntemacs-users@june Sat Nov 2 13:55:57 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Sat" " 2" "November" "1996" "14:23:34" "-0700" "Fabio Somenzi" "fabio@joplin.colorado.edu" nil "16" "Re: Undo bug using ange-ftp" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA12182 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:55:56 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA30031 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:55:56 -0800 Received: from joplin.colorado.edu (joplin.Colorado.EDU [128.138.246.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA11077 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 13:24:32 -0800 Received: (from fabio@localhost) by joplin.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00306; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:23:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199611022123.OAA00306@joplin.colorado.edu> From: Fabio Somenzi To: jim@meritnet.com Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Undo bug using ange-ftp Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:23:34 -0700 ->I've noticed an undo problem when using the ange-ftp extension. If you ->read a file using ange-ftp, delete a character, save the file, then do ->an undo, the undo occurs but the buffer is still tagged as unmodified. ->If I undo several commands (do 3 deletes, save, 3 undos), the buffer is ->tagged modified after the first undo but goes back to unmodified after ->the last one. All this works correctly on local files. Anybody have ->any ideas? I can only say that I've seen the same behavior on both Win95 and Linux. Fabio -- Fabio Somenzi | Phone: 303-492-3466 University of Colorado | Fax: 303-492-2758 ECE Dept. | Email: Fabio@Colorado.EDU Boulder CO 80309-0425 | WWW: http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~fabio From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Nov 12 16:46:41 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "12" "November" "1996" "15:45:41" "PST" "Mary Holstege" "holstege@firstfloor.com" nil "29" "Re: UNC names and NTemacs?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA02021 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:46:41 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id QAA28072 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:46:40 -0800 Received: from firstfloor.COM (firstfloor.firstfloor.com [198.4.162.3]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA27753 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:48:35 -0800 Received: from homeplate.firstfloor.COM by firstfloor.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA11255; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:43:38 -0800 Received: from ABBOTT by homeplate.firstfloor.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06183; Tue, 12 Nov 96 15:45:41 PST Message-Id: <9611122345.AA06183@homeplate.firstfloor.COM> In-Reply-To: References: <9611122024.AA7506@> Reply-To: holstege@firstfloor.COM From: Mary Holstege To: Jason Rumney Cc: ntemacs-users Subject: Re: UNC names and NTemacs? Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 15:45:41 PST Jason Rumney writes: > > In article <9611122024.AA7506@>, Paul Koning/US/3Com writes: > > > I was just fiddling around with a home LAN (WFW based) so I had > > stuff out on the other machine that was known to my box with a UNC name > > (\\node\dir\dir2\foo). > > > Is there some way to get NTemacs to access such stuff? I tried various > > approaches using quoted names with backslashes, unquoted names with > > backslashes or slashes, but nothing worked. > I can get this notation to work, but ange-ftp interferes with it. Once you have ange-ftp loaded, completion doesn't work. What's more, you cannot do find-file from an ange-ftp buffer. For example, suppose I am editing: /holstege@otherhost:/home/holstege/somefile.c and then try to find-file //node/dir/newfile.txt What I get is /holstege@otherhost:/node/dir/newfile.txt which is obviously not going to work. If you use ange-ftp this may explain your difficulties. -- Mary Holstege@firstfloor.com From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Oct 18 01:56:19 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" "18" "October" "1996" "09:12:58" "+0100" "Timothy Regan" "tim.regan@bt-sys.bt.co.uk" nil "30" "Re: Ange-ftp performance" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id BAA19787 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:56:19 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id BAA28730 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:56:17 -0700 Received: from mailhub.axion.bt.co.uk (mailhub.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id BAA18535 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:07:13 -0700 Received: from rambo.futures.bt.co.uk by mailhub.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:06:40 +0100 Received: from argon.bt-sys.bt.co.uk by rambo.futures.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:06:31 +0100 Received: from silver.bt-sys.bt.co.uk by argon.bt-sys.bt.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12690; Fri, 18 Oct 96 09:13:00 BST Received: by silver.bt-sys.bt.co.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12880; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:12:58 +0100 Message-Id: <9610180812.AA12880@silver.bt-sys.bt.co.uk> X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII From: tim.regan@bt-sys.bt.co.uk (Timothy Regan) To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ange-ftp performance Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:12:58 +0100 Hi All, Ange-ftp has transformed my experience of Windoze 95. No more X sessions just to run emacs. However if I get the syntax wrong, for example /tregan@bt-sys.bt.co.uk:/home/tregan/ instead of /tregan@silver.bt-sys.bt.co.uk:/home/tregan/ emacs hangs and needs to be killed via ctrl-alt-del. Also if I realize that I've misstyped the password and hit delete, emacs complains "non-character input event". Any guesses whats up and how to fix them? Cheers, Tim. From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Nov 18 17:19:49 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "18" "November" "1996" "16:23:35" "PST" "Mary Holstege" "holstege@firstfloor.com" nil "56" "UNC names and ange-ftp, how I fixed it" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id RAA25864 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:19:49 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id RAA01921 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:19:47 -0800 Received: from firstfloor.COM (firstfloor.firstfloor.com [198.4.162.3]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA19889 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:23:24 -0800 Received: from homeplate.firstfloor.COM by firstfloor.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA22240; Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:21:25 -0800 Received: from ABBOTT by homeplate.firstfloor.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08721; Mon, 18 Nov 96 16:23:36 PST Message-Id: <9611190023.AA08721@homeplate.firstfloor.COM> Reply-To: holstege@firstfloor.COM From: Mary Holstege To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: UNC names and ange-ftp, how I fixed it Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 16:23:35 PST To recap, my problem was that certain file operations failed when I was performing them from a buffer that was being managed via ange-ftp magic. So, for example, if I was looking at the file /holstege@unixbox:/home/holstege/work/stuff.txt and then I tried to access a file with a UNC path, such as //ntbox/shared/holstege/more.txt I would end up looking at /holstege@unixbox:/home/holstege/work/ntbox/shared/holstege/more.txt This also interfered with my printing setup, as I was just doing a ps-print-buffer-with-faces direct to the printer, e.g. "//printhost/printer" So to print I would have to copy the file into a local buffer and then print it. Various kind people suggested I upgrade ange-ftp, or sent me versions they had tweaked and were using successfully. I thank you, but none of this made the slightest bit of difference. I don't fully understand it all, but it boiled down to this: (expand-file-name "//node/path") returned "node/path" from remote ange-ftp buffers and "//node/path" from local buffers. I ended up changing the function ange-ftp-real-expand-file-name-actual itself. This function is used only on Win95/NT and chops off spurious drive letters. It seems that it assumes those drive letters will always be there and in some cases they are not. Here is the fixed function (it is way down at the end of ange-ftp.el): (defun ange-ftp-real-expand-file-name-actual (&rest args) (setq old-name (car args)) (setq new-name (ange-ftp-run-real-handler 'expand-file-name args)) (setq drive-letter (substring new-name 0 2) ) ;; I'd like to distill the following lines into one (if) statement ;; removing the need for the temp final variable (setq final new-name) (if ( not (equal (substring old-name 0 1) "~") ) (if (and (or (< (length old-name) 2) (not (string-match "/[a-zA-Z]:" old-name) ) ) (string-match "[a-zA-Z]:" new-name)) (setq final (substring new-name 2) ) ) ) final) I hope this isn't something so bizarre in my configuration that this isn't of use to someone else! -- Mary Holstege@firstfloor.com | Mary Holstege, PhD | First Floor Software (415) 254-5161 | 444 Castro Street, Suite 200 (415) 968-1193 (Fax) | Mountain View, CA 94041 | | http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~holstege From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Nov 19 08:17:50 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "19" "November" "1996" "09:25:39" "-0600" "Milt Epstein" "epstein@cd.com" nil "92" "Re: UNC names and ange-ftp, how I fixed it" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA14167 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:17:50 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA01847 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:17:48 -0800 Received: from beltway (beltway.cd.com [204.217.30.66]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id HAA10784 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 07:05:13 -0800 Received: from bif.cd.com by beltway (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09350; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:04:23 -0600 Received: from localhost by bif.cd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23853; Tue, 19 Nov 96 09:25:39 CST In-Reply-To: <9611190023.AA08721@homeplate.firstfloor.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Milt Epstein Sender: epstein@cd.com To: Mary Holstege Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNC names and ange-ftp, how I fixed it Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:25:39 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Mary Holstege wrote: [ ... ] > I ended up changing the function > ange-ftp-real-expand-file-name-actual itself. This function is used > only on Win95/NT and chops off spurious drive letters. It seems > that it assumes those drive letters will always be there and in some > cases they are not. Here is the fixed function (it is way down at > the end of ange-ftp.el): > > (defun ange-ftp-real-expand-file-name-actual (&rest args) > (setq old-name (car args)) > (setq new-name (ange-ftp-run-real-handler 'expand-file-name args)) > (setq drive-letter (substring new-name 0 2) ) > ;; I'd like to distill the following lines into one (if) statement > ;; removing the need for the temp final variable > (setq final new-name) > (if (not (equal (substring old-name 0 1) "~")) > (if (and (or (< (length old-name) 2) > (not (string-match "/[a-zA-Z]:" old-name))) > (string-match "[a-zA-Z]:" new-name)) > (setq final (substring new-name 2)))) > final) > > I hope this isn't something so bizarre in my configuration that this isn't > of use to someone else! I know basically nothing about ange-ftp, but I do know lisp, and this function looks quite odd to me (i.e. commenting more from a syntactic/programming point of view rather than a semantic one). It mostly has to do with emacs-lisp's concept of global/local variables (OK, OK, it really has to do with scope/extent, but those are trickier concepts, and it can be intuitively understood by thinking of them as global/local variables). Basically, when you see something like: (setq old-name ...) *where old-name has not been mentioned previously in the function*, it is referencing/changing the global variable old-name. Now in many cases in emacs-lisp, this is something you do intentionally (e.g. it allows using user-settable variables/options). However, in many cases, it is a very bad thing to do. For example, one thing you don't want to use it for is to create temporary/local variables in a function (this can have nasty, unintended, hard-to-debug side-effects). And it looks like that is what it is being used for above. For example, I could find no reference to the variables old-name, new-name, and drive-letter anywhere else in the emacs-lisp code I have. And especially no declaration of them via defvar (which is typical for emacs-lisp global variables). They seem only to be being used as temporary variables. (Actually, it's doubly odd that drive-letter is not even used later in the function.) So, basically there's two possibilities here. First, these variables were really intended to be global (and must be being used somewhere else that I can't find, e.g. perhaps in a code file that I don't have). If this is the case, however, these variables should be defvar'ed (which could be happening in that other file), and more specific/descriptive names should be used. If they're not, then this function should be rewritten to avoid the use of global variables. (And from the comment about the temp final variable, it kind of indicates that this is what is happening here.) The way to use local variable in emacs-lisp is to use let (and it's cousin, let*). So, assuming that we really do want to use local variables here, this is how I'd rewrite the above function (like I said, I can't really comment on the semantics of the function): (defun ange-ftp-real-expand-file-name-actual (&rest args) (let* ( (old-name (car args)) (new-name (ange-ftp-run-real-handler 'expand-file-name args)) (drive-letter (substring new-name 0 2)) ) (if (not (equal (substring old-name 0 1) "~")) (if (and (or (< (length old-name) 2) (not (string-match "/[a-zA-Z]:" old-name) ) ) (string-match "[a-zA-Z]:" new-name)) (setq new-name (substring new-name 2)))) new-name)) Note: Once a local variable has been created/declared via a let, you can freely use setq on it in the body of that let. Milt Epstein Software Engineer Central Data Corporation epstein@cd.com WWW: http://www.cd.com/ FTP: ftp.cd.com From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Nov 20 02:23:27 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "09:32:29" "+0000" "Ronan Waide" "waider@autodealing.com" nil "24" "Re: UNC names and ange-ftp, how I fixed it" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id CAA09602 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:23:27 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id CAA01976 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:23:26 -0800 Received: from mail (gate.autodealing.com [194.125.131.131]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id BAA05283 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:34:28 -0800 Received: from waider.autodealing.com(really [194.9.15.139]) by mail via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 20 Nov 96 09:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (Smail-3.1.93 1996-May-30 #2 built 1996-Jun-28) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <9611190023.AA08721@homeplate.firstfloor.COM> Organization: AutoDealing Software, Ltd. From: Ronan Waide To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNC names and ange-ftp, how I fixed it Date: Wed, 20 Nov 96 09:32:29 +0000 (GMT) On November 19, Milt Epstein said: > > (defun ange-ftp-real-expand-file-name-actual (&rest args) > (let* ( (old-name (car args)) > (new-name (ange-ftp-run-real-handler 'expand-file-name args)) > (drive-letter (substring new-name 0 2)) ) > (if (not (equal (substring old-name 0 1) "~")) > (if (and (or (< (length old-name) 2) > (not (string-match "/[a-zA-Z]:" old-name) ) ) > (string-match "[a-zA-Z]:" new-name)) > (setq new-name (substring new-name 2)))) > new-name)) Which is all very nice and neatly reproduces the effects of the original, but unfortunately the original mods seem to have broken .netrc completion - actually, I think the original (virtunix) distributed version has/had the same problem, but I had at some point managed to fix this. *sigh* Back to the drawing board. Waider. -- waider@autodealing.com / AutoDealing Software Ltd / +353-1-6766455 Someone got their mojo working and all I got was this Indian spirit guide. From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Nov 25 05:05:55 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "25" "November" "1996" "07:16:31" "-0500" "andreas@sccon.com" "andreas@sccon.com" nil "26" "ange-ftp, emacs-19.34, NT 4.0" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id FAA00121 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:05:54 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id FAA28526 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:05:53 -0800 Received: from bort.mv.net (bort.mv.net [192.80.84.6]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with ESMTP id EAA28957 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 04:16:38 -0800 Received: from LIFELINE.sccon.com (test.med.iacnet.com [140.244.2.88]) by bort.mv.net (8.8.3/mem-951016) with SMTP id HAA05257 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:16:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611251216.HAA05257@bort.mv.net> From: andreas@sccon.com To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: ange-ftp, emacs-19.34, NT 4.0 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:16:31 -0500 (EST) hi all... i just upgrade my workstation from NT 3.51 to NT 4.0 and have been testing my programs and have found a problem with ange-ftp and emacs 19.34... now all this worked with NT 3.51... when i ange-ftp to a unix workstation and i have the following line entered in the mini-buffer... /prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub what it gets translated to is: /prep.ai.mit.edu:c:/pub has anyone else seen this type of behavior... and are there any fixes as i use ange-ftp quit a bit... i am using the ftp.exe as recommended in the faq and as i said all worked in NT 3.51... thanks in advance, andreas From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Jun 24 15:08:41 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "24" "June" "1996" "14:04:10" "-0700" "Chris McMahan" "cmcmahan@teknowledge.com" nil "30" "Re: ange-ftp problem in search of a solution" "^From:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA10306 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:08:41 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA30842 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:08:40 -0700 Received: from silicon.Teknowledge.COM (silicon.Teknowledge.COM [128.136.240.12]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id OAA04377 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:10:25 -0700 Received: (from cmcmahan@localhost) by silicon.Teknowledge.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA00849; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606242104.OAA00849@silicon.Teknowledge.COM> In-Reply-To: <17245440611784@zianet.com> References: <9606222110.AB01477@novdpd.zilker.net> <18434104608429@zianet.com> <17245440611784@zianet.com> From: cmcmahan@Teknowledge.COM (Chris McMahan) To: Ken Brunell CC: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: ange-ftp problem in search of a solution Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:04:10 -0700 (PDT) I've had the same problem from the start. The workaround I use is to leave off the last letter or two from the filename, and let ange-ftp complete it. This seems to load the directory tree correctly, and everything else works from that point on. I'd really appreciate a fix for this one!!! Chris >>> "KB" == Ken Brunell writes: KB> Ken Brunell expounds: >> Alfred Correira expounds: >> > I can't get ange-ftp to work properly for me. I *can* succesfully visit a >> I have observed this same behavior. I have found that I can't >> retrieve anything with mixed-case in the path or file name. I tried KB> [...] KB> Also, if I ask for, say, "index.html" it loads up dired and shows me a KB> directory listing of that one file. If I hit e to edit it from there, KB> it gives (new file) as well. KB> -Ken ========================================================== Chris McMahan cmcmahan@teknowledge.com Teknowledge Corporation http://www.teknowledge.com/ (415) 424-0500 ========================================================== Hukt on fonix werkt fore me! From owner-ntemacs-users@trout Sun Apr 6 15:04:24 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Sun" " 6" "April" "1997" "16:32:29" "-0500" "TK Harris" "thomas@netdoor.com" nil "30" "Re: ange-ftp chmode fails on unix host" "^From:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA04709 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:04:23 -0700 Received: from trout.cs.washington.edu (trout.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.178]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA17247 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:04:22 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by trout.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id OAA25963 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 14:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pike.netdoor.com (pike.netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id OAA03730 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 14:32:11 -0700 Received: from scimitar.netdoor.com (scimitar.netdoor.com [208.137.128.4]) by pike.netdoor.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA16182; Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:32:03 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199704051139.NAA11115@stork.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: thomas@pike.netdoor.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: TK Harris To: David Starks-Browning cc: NT Emacs Users , David Starks-Browning , Andy Norman Subject: Re: ange-ftp chmode fails on unix host Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:32:29 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) > I'm just starting with ntemacs 19.34.1 on Win95. I got the latest patched > ftp.exe and ange-ftp.el. > > I need ange-ftp & dired to work together properly when the remote host is > unix. How can I do that? Locally on Win95, using dired on a remote unix > host's directory through ange-ftp, and typing M to change the protection > mode of the remote file, returns > > chmode ("666" "lsfpmon.log.alpha6") > Unknown remote command: chmode > > chmode 666: error > Sat Apr 05 13:22:39 1997 Buffer `lsflog' > > I take it that "chmode" is the nt-version of "chmod" in unix? In ange-ftp.el, the line (cond ((equal "chmod" program) should be (cond ((equal dired-chmod-program program) And somehow it should know to refresh the a direcry list as well. TK Harris, IT Manager (601) 969-1434 NetDoor -> http://www.netdoor.com FAX: (601) 969-3838 From seang@mail.emi.net Sat Apr 19 16:11:14 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Sat" "19" "April" "1997" "19:23:44" "-0400" "Sean Gibson" "seang@mail.emi.net" "<199704192321.TAA23585@florence.emi.net>" "18" "Using ftp to access files on a UNIX system from NT Emacs" "^From:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from florence.emi.net (mail.emi.net [204.181.45.5]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA25611 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:11:13 -0700 Received: from mail.emi.net (osaka04.emi.net [204.251.248.131]) by florence.emi.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA23585 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:21:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199704192321.TAA23585@florence.emi.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.5b1 (45) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From: Sean Gibson To: voelker@cs.washington.edu Subject: Using ftp to access files on a UNIX system from NT Emacs Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:23:44 -0400 Geoff, First let me say that I really appreciate the information that you maintain regarding Emacs for Windows NT. It has been very useful. I read through the information regarding downloading the new ftp.exe for Windows NT Emacs. Ftp is now working within Emacs, but I am having problems using it to edit files on a UNIX system. It appears that when Emacs tries to list the files on the UNIX system that it is prepending c: onto the front of the current directory, which doesn't work. It appears that Emacs is assuming that the UNIX file system is really a PC file system. How does Emacs determine what kind of system it is ftping from? Is there a way that I can change the Emacs functions to use ftp to access UNIX directories? Thanks for the help, Sean Gibson seang@mail.emi.net From waider@autodealing.com Thu Mar 20 09:35:20 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "20" "March" "1997" "17:25" "GMT" "Ronan Waide" "waider@autodealing.com" nil "25" "suggestion for multiple disk handling in nt/emacs" "^From:" nil nil "3" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from mail (gate.autodealing.com [194.125.131.131]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA29103 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:35:18 -0800 Received: from waider.cognotec.com by mail with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0w7lbB-002mKCC; Thu, 20 Mar 97 17:25 GMT Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.20 under Emacs 19.34.1 Organization: AutoDealing Software, Ltd. From: Ronan Waide To: Geoff Voelker , Andrew Innes Subject: suggestion for multiple disk handling in nt/emacs Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 17:25 GMT Hiho, having stumbled across yet another bizarre ange-ftp/emacs interaction which I haven't yet looked into - attaching a remote file to a mail message using vm 6.20 results in failure since /something/ prepends a "c:" to the ange-ftp filename - I came up with the following potential workaround for drive-related problems: Why not map all drives to pseudo-directories such that c:/foo becomes /c/foo, d:/foo becomes /d/foo, etc. This would, in theory, remove the ange-ftp related problems; additionally, it'd avoid confusion over filenames that /don't/ specify the drive, and also it'd prevent dired from whining about directories not having a common parent (saw that bug mentioned on the list recently). On the downside, you'd have to support d:/ notation anyway to keep people happy, I guess. Oh well, just my $0.02... Cheers, Waider. -- waider@autodealing.com / AutoDealing Software Ltd. / +353-1-6766455 HTML is the computer equivalent of running over a page of text with a few coloured pens, some nice pictures and some glue. From owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Tue Jun 17 12:47:37 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "17" "June" "1997" "14:46:07" "-0400" "Norman Walsh" "norm@berkshire.net" nil "41" "ange-ftp in NT emacs (and odd ^M problem!)" "^From:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id MAA00253 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:47:37 -0700 Received: from trout.cs.washington.edu (trout.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.178]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id MAA29806 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:47:36 -0700 Received: (majordom@localhost) by trout.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ws+) id LAA25553 for ntemacs-users-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by trout.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id LAA25549 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loomis.berkshire.net (berkshire.net [206.72.196.14]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id LAA24973 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:47:42 -0700 Received: from mergalang.berkshire.net (norm2.berkshire.net [206.72.196.74]) by loomis.berkshire.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA22879 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2690-Tue17Jun1997144607-0400-norm@berkshire.net> References: <2440-Thu05Jun1997104011-0400-norm@berkshire.net> Reply-to: norm@berkshire.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Norman Walsh's message of Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:40:11 -0400 Lines: 41 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.55/Emacs 19.34 Precedence: bulk From: Norman Walsh Sender: owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: ange-ftp in NT emacs (and odd ^M problem!) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:46:07 -0400 Hello world, Despite the efforts of a half dozen or more kind souls, I was never able to get ange-ftp working from NT Emacs with any simple reconfiguration. I finally dug my way down into the elisp and found the problem. Or rather, I found a solution, but if someone else can suggest why the change described below is necessary for me but, apparently, no one else, I'd love to hear about it. On line 1503 in ange-ftp.el, about 12 lines down from the top of ange-ftp-process-filter, there is some code designed to handle the hash marks returned by the ftp client: 1501 ;; handle hash mark printing 1502 (and ange-ftp-process-busy 1503 (string-match "^#+$" str) 1504 (setq str (ange-ftp-process-handle-hash str))) On my machine, I must change that to 1503 (string-match "^#+^M*$" str) (Where ^M is really a control-M, not a caret followed by a capital M). However, I just noticed an even more frightening problem that might be related. I cannot copy a block of text that contains a literal ^M. I can kill a line that contains it, but when I yank that line back, the ^M is gone. Is it me? Have I got something horribly misconfigured because I dragged a lot of my .emacs file over from a unix box? Cheers, norm -- Norman Walsh | You are in a twisty little maze Senior Application Analyst | of URLs, all alluring. ArborText, Inc. (www.arbortext.com) | 413.549.3868 Voice/FAX | From owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Mon Jun 16 18:02:19 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "16" "June" "1997" "08:29:44" "-0400" "Chris Szurgot" "szurgot@itribe.net" nil "54" "Ange-ftp et. al..." 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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:29:44 -0400 () I've always known that the ftp program I ported was poorly done, and especially has trouble with firewalls (A problem I'm wrestling with myself) However, I'd noticed recently that you can get around the limitation where Microsoft's ftp expect the password to be typed in (in won't take it from a pipe) by "quote"ing the username/password string. Would some emacs-lisp guru be able to use this information to allow ange-ftp to use the standard ftp, this saving us all a LOT of headache? (I can't seem to sort it out, and don't have much time lately.) :( Sample sessions follow. This is the session ripped from an emacs login... ftp> open porthos Connected to porthos.itribe.net. 220 porthos.itribe.net FTP server ready. ftp> user "szurgot" Turtle Power! 331 Password required for szurgot. 230 User szurgot logged in. ftp> hash Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark). ftp> ls "-al /" c:/tmp/ange-ftpa00269 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. 226 Transfer complete. And here is a sample using the "quote" command. C:\TEMP>ftp -n ftp> open ftp.microsoft.com Connected to ftp.microsoft.com. 220 ftp Microsoft FTP Service (Version 3.0). ftp> quote user anonymous 331 Anonymous access allowed, send identity (e-mail name) as password. ftp> quote pass szurgot@itribe.net 230-This is FTP.MICROSOFT.COM. Please see the dirmap.txt file for more information. An alternate location for Windows NT Service Packs is located at: ftp://198.105.232.37/fixes/ 230 Anonymous user logged in. ftp> NOTE: the whole "Turtle Power!" thing doesn't work, but otherwise, this should work, right? Chris PS. Mind you, I'm not done trying myself, but... Chris