From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Nov 15 10:07:03 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "11:43:05" "-0500" "James P. G. Sterbenz" "jpgs@acm.org" nil "59" "How to specify numeric color values in _emacs?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA02007 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:07:03 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id KAA26344 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:07:01 -0800 Received: from ns.gte.com (ns.gte.com [132.197.8.9]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id IAA26175 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:41:58 -0800 Received: from colossus.gte.com by ns.gte.com (8.7.5/) Received: by colossus.gte.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27557; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:43:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9611151643.AA27557@colossus.gte.com> X-Phone: +1 617 466 2786 X-Url: http://www.ccrc.wustl.edu/~jpgs X-Pgp: Key 1024/CBBA3CD9 Print = 159533245CE354E1 9C54297E47D71A8C X-Snail: GTE Laboratories, 40 Sylvan Road MS-47, Waltham MA 02154-1120 USA Organization: GTE Laboratories From: "James P.G. Sterbenz" Sender: jpgs@gte.com To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Cc: "James P.G. Sterbenz" Subject: How to specify numeric color values in _emacs? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 11:43:05 -0500 I've just started using a laptop with win95, and am trying to get my emacs to look as much like my Unix environment as I can. I can do things like (set-foreground-color "cyan") just fine, but I really want to use rgb values; here is my Unix .Xdefaults for emacs: emacs*foreground: #90e0ff emacs*background: #003040 emacs*pointerColor: #ffffff emacs*cursorColor: #ffffff emacs.region.attributeForeground: #ffffff emacs.region.attributeBackground: #002838 emacs.modeline.attributeForeground: #ffffff emacs.modeline.attributeBackground: #0080ff emacs.bold.attributeForeground: #00ffff emacs.highlight.attributeForeground: #ff0000 emacs.secondary-selection: #ffff00 emacs*menu.popup.font: Rom11.500 emacs*menu.popup.foreground: #00ffff emacs*menu.popup.background: #004060 emacs*menubar.foreground: #00ffff emacs*menubar.background: #006080 emacs*menubar.buttonForeground: #ffffff emacs*menubar.buttonBackground: #0080ff I've tried various substitutions of the color name using both the RGB style here (that I've used forever in X) and what I think is a correct form of the rgb:rrrr/gggg/bbbb with no luck. I'm sure I'm just doing something wrong in elisp (at which I'm not very proficient). Can anyone give me a working version of (set-foreground-color "#90e0ff") or (set-foreground-color "rgb:90/e0/ff") or whatever it should be? Do I have to worry about the number of bits depending on the display type? Can I control *other* colors like the region and modeline like I do in X? Can I change the colors of the Windows menus? (I expect the answer is no, but it is worth a try...) Of course, I looked at the readme, the ntemacs web page, and did a DejaNews search, but didn't find anything concrete enough to tell me what I'm doing wrong. Thanks much in advance, James James P.G. Sterbenz | chair IEEE ComSoc TCGN | Sr. MTS, GTE Labs jpgs@{acm|ieee}.org | PGP Key ID = CBBA3CD9 | 40 Sylvan Road MS-47 +1 617 466 2786 | print=159533245CE354E1 | Waltham, MA 02254 USA http://www.ccrc.wustl.edu/~jpgs| 9C54297E47D71A8C | [opinions are mine] From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Nov 15 10:36:55 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "17:28:38" "GMT" "Andrew Innes" "andrewi@harlequin.co.uk" nil "39" "Re: How to specify numeric color values in _emacs?" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA04727 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:36:55 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id KAA27372 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:36:54 -0800 Received: from holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk (holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk [193.128.4.58]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA29032 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:29:02 -0800 Received: from propos.long.harlequin.co.uk by holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:28:46 GMT Received: from elan.long.harlequin.co.uk (elan [193.128.93.78]) by propos.long.harlequin.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA14543; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:28:38 GMT Message-Id: <199611151728.RAA14543@propos.long.harlequin.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9611151643.AA27557@colossus.gte.com> (jpgs@acm.org) From: Andrew Innes To: jpgs@acm.org Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu, jpgs@gte.com Subject: Re: How to specify numeric color values in _emacs? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:28:38 GMT On Fri, 15 Nov 96 11:43:05 -0500, "James P.G. Sterbenz" said: [ .. ] >I've tried various substitutions of the color name using both the >RGB style here (that I've used forever in X) and what I think is >a correct form of the rgb:rrrr/gggg/bbbb with no luck. I'm sure I'm >just doing something wrong in elisp (at which I'm not very >proficient). You aren't doing anything wrong, it is just that NT Emacs doesn't recognise #xxxxxx as a literal RGB colour specifier (we can easily add that for 19.35). I think under X, it is Xlib that handles that, not Emacs. >Can anyone give me a working version of > >(set-foreground-color "#90e0ff") >or >(set-foreground-color "rgb:90/e0/ff") >or whatever it should be? Do I have to worry about the number of bits >depending on the display type? You don't need to worry about display type. As a hack to get this to work, you just need to register "#90e0ff" as a named colour by adding the cons pair `("#90e0ff" . N)' where N is the rgb value as a number (9494783 in this case) to `win32-color-map'. Someone could probably show you how to use defadvise to make this transparent. >Can I control *other* colors like the region and modeline like I do in >X? Can I change the colors of the Windows menus? (I expect the answer >is no, but it is worth a try...) Region and modeline can be customized, but the menu-bar is a standard Windows one, and is controled by the desktop colour scheme defined in Control Panel. AndrewI From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Nov 15 12:26:28 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" "15" "November" "1996" "14:18:44" "-0500" "James P. G. Sterbenz" "jpgs@acm.org" nil "71" "Re: How to specify numeric color values in _emacs? " "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id MAA17208 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:26:28 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id MAA27053 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:26:25 -0800 Received: from ns.gte.com (ns.gte.com [132.197.8.9]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id LAA08219 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:17:52 -0800 Received: from colossus.gte.com by ns.gte.com (8.7.5/) Received: by colossus.gte.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21485; Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:18:44 -0500 Message-Id: <9611151918.AA21485@colossus.gte.com> X-Phone: +1 617 466 2786 X-Url: http://www.ccrc.wustl.edu/~jpgs X-Pgp: Key 1024/CBBA3CD9 Print = 159533245CE354E1 9C54297E47D71A8C X-Snail: GTE Laboratories, 40 Sylvan Road MS-47, Waltham MA 02154-1120 USA In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 15 Nov 96 17:28:38 +0000. <199611151728.RAA14543@propos.long.harlequin.co.uk> Organization: GTE Laboratories From: "James P.G. Sterbenz" Sender: jpgs@gte.com To: Andrew Innes Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu, jpgs@gte.com Subject: Re: How to specify numeric color values in _emacs? Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 14:18:44 -0500 Quoth Andrew Innes: >>Can anyone give me a working version of >> >>(set-foreground-color "#90e0ff") >>or >>(set-foreground-color "rgb:90/e0/ff") >>or whatever it should be? Do I have to worry about the number of bits >>depending on the display type? >You don't need to worry about display type. >As a hack to get this to work, you just need to register "#90e0ff" as a >named colour by adding the cons pair `("#90e0ff" . N)' where N is the >rgb value as a number (9494783 in this case) to `win32-color-map'. OK, works like a charm; thanks! >Someone could probably show you how to use defadvise to make this >transparent. I'm not sure what defadvise *is*, but I don't mind 2 lines per color. >>Can I control *other* colors like the region and modeline like I do in >>X? Can I change the colors of the Windows menus? (I expect the answer >>is no, but it is worth a try...) >Region and modeline can be customized, How can I do this? There isn't a set--color command for things like modeline-background, modeline-foreground, region-foreground, region-background, attribute-foreground, attribute-background Not only isn't it in the manual, but I tried a few obvious combinations in case they were secret commands. Can I customise from .emacs using elisp, or does it require a source code change and rebuild? >but the menu-bar is a standard >Windows one, and is controled by the desktop colour scheme defined in >Control Panel. I expected this. Now, if I just could get Windows to use the focus and raise policy I want, I'd feel better about all this... Finally, how do I get colors working for various modes? I currently use hilit19 under X-windows, and have a customised set of colors for html mode. Do (or should) I start using faces? Or can (should) I just do (cond (window-system (setq hilit-mode-enable-list '(not text-mode) hilit-background-mode 'light hilit-inhibit-hooks nil hilit-inhibit-rebinding nil) (require 'hilit19) )) as I do now? I seem to remember that hilit19 was on the way out. Thanks much, James