From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Sep 30 18:09:42 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "30" "September" "1996" "20:10:37" "-0400" "Richard J. Gonsalves" "phygons@newton.physics.buffalo.edu" nil "22" "Using ntemacs remote login session" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id SAA04291 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:09:42 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id SAA26407 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:09:41 -0700 Received: from newton.physics.buffalo.edu (newton.physics.buffalo.edu [128.205.17.9]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id RAA28054 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:10:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (phygons@localhost) by newton.physics.buffalo.edu (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA20934 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: "Richard J. Gonsalves" To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Using ntemacs remote login session Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I have ntemacs 19-34 working great on NT 3.51 in both window and console modes. I can't get it to work from a telnet session into my machine. I use ataman telnet server on the NT machine, log in remotely and try c:\emacs\bin\emacs.bat -nw or c:\emacs\bin\emacs.exe -nw no response - telnet session freezes and I have to kill it. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Richard J. Gonsalves phygons@acsu.buffalo.edu Department of Physics Telephone: (716) 645-3043 State University of New York at Buffalo Facsimile: (716) 645-2507 Buffalo, NY 14260-1500, U.S.A. Office: 323 Fronczak Hall From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Oct 23 11:42:21 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "23" "October" "1996" "18:46:52" "+0100" "Andrew Innes" "andrewi@harlequin.co.uk" nil "27" "Re: console NT emacs & telnet" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA14741 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:21 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id LAA22475 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:17 -0700 Received: from holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk (holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk [193.128.4.58]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA07220 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:47:48 -0700 Received: from propos.long.harlequin.co.uk by holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:46:56 +0100 Received: from elan.long.harlequin.co.uk (elan [193.128.93.78]) by propos.long.harlequin.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05802; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:46:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199610231746.SAA05802@propos.long.harlequin.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199610231733.NAA22662@kingston.cat.rpi.edu> (message from Brian Tibbetts on Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:33:10 -0400) From: Andrew Innes To: tibbetts@cat.rpi.edu Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: console NT emacs & telnet Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:46:52 +0100 On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:33:10 -0400, Brian Tibbetts said: >I setup Seattle Lab's NT telnet server this morning (slnet) and >immediately got telnet serving capability. I then happily went on to >try emacs in console mode and got nowhere. The client telnet locked >up and that was that. > >I just got off the phone with SL's tech support: > > A) They won't support since emacs is public domain. > B) He was guessing that emacs launches a second console which >slnet can't detect. > >I'm guessing that (B) is correct (as indicated by the blank window we >have to remove when not setup properly). Is this really the case and >does anyone have experience with a properly working telnet solution or >a modification to NT emacs which will allow this server to work. You need to run emacs.exe directly, or through emacs.bat, but not using runemacs. A second console will only be created if you start Emacs using runemacs.exe. When run in console mode (-nw), Emacs changes the mode of the console for "raw" access - I don't know whether this is supported by the telnet server (hopefully yes, otherwise the utility of the server is greatly reduced). AndrewI From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Dec 4 10:02:38 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" " 4" "December" "1996" "17:08:43" "GMT" "Andrew Innes" "andrewi@harlequin.co.uk" nil "34" "Re: Trying to run NT emacs via telnet" "^From:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA21107 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:02:37 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id KAA26034 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:02:36 -0800 Received: from holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk (holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk [193.128.4.58]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA15210 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:09:13 -0800 Received: from propos.long.harlequin.co.uk by holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:08:47 GMT Received: from elan.long.harlequin.co.uk (elan [193.128.93.78]) by propos.long.harlequin.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA20818; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:08:43 GMT Message-Id: <199612041708.RAA20818@propos.long.harlequin.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199612041645.LAA01416@kingston.cat.rpi.edu> (message from Brian Tibbetts on Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:45:10 -0500) From: Andrew Innes To: tibbetts@cat.rpi.edu Cc: corwin@adra.com, ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trying to run NT emacs via telnet Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:08:43 GMT On Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:45:10 -0500, Brian Tibbetts said: >>Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:24:29 -0500 >>From: Jim Corwin >> >>I have been trying to run NT emacs within a telnet session started from >>a UNIX machine inside an xterm. No matter which telnet server I've tried >>on NT (3.51), I have not managed to get emacs to come up. I did get it to >>find the lisp and etc directories correctly (by making sure the registry keys >>were correct). I run it with "-nw", which I know works because it works in a >>4NT window on my PC. Is it possible to make this work? (The UNIX system is an >>HP - though I don't know if that matters.) > >I did some looking into this as have others on this list. The basic >story I got from one of the telnet daemon vendors (pragma systems) is >this: > >NT emacs uses an alternative or shadow console which the daemon can't >track so the emacs in console mode is started; however, the console >isn't passed to the telnet client. There isn't any strong reason for Emacs to switch console buffers - if you can recompile Emacs, try commenting out the calls to SetConsoleActiveScreenBuffer in src/ntterm.c and changing set_terminal_modes to set cur_screen to GetStdHandle (STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE) instead of creating a new screen buffer. I don't think anything else should need to change. If this makes Emacs work in tty mode over a telnet connection, then I'll make this change for 19.35. AndrewI PS. If you can't recompile Emacs, I can send you a binary of 19.34 with this change for you to try (if you have an ftp site I can upload to).