From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Sep 11 19:34:41 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "11" "September" "1996" "19:54:05" "-0600" "Charles S. Henkel" "csh@henktech.com" nil "35" "RE: gnuclient" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id TAA20482 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:34:41 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id TAA19090 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:34:37 -0700 Received: from Rt66.com (mack.rt66.com [198.59.162.1]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id SAA17368 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:46:02 -0700 Received: from pmc05.rt66.com (pmh02.rt66.com [204.134.97.122]) by Rt66.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01407 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pmc05.rt66.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBA01A.FDDC2EC0@pmc05.rt66.com>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:54:07 -0600 Message-ID: <01BBA01A.FDDC2EC0@pmc05.rt66.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Charles S. Henkel" To: "ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu" Subject: RE: gnuclient Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:54:05 -0600 I get the same DOS boxes under NT4.0b2 and emacs 19.33. In addition, I thought I'd point out that you can put a shortcut to = gnuclient in your "SendTo" folder. Then, you just have to right click to = send the file to emacs. This avoids having to define a bunch of = associations for files which may not be desirable (e.g., Tcl/Tk or Perl = source). ---------- From: Paul Mitchell[SMTP:paul_mitchell@neocortek.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 1996 3:39 PM To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: gnuclient I recently downloaded gnuserv.zip from http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/voelker/ntemacs.html for use with emacs-19.34 running under win95. This package allows you to get the file association behavior whereby double-clicking on a file causes your already running emacs to read said file into a buffer. This works fine except each file that is read into emacs in this manner causes a gnuclient DOS box to open. If you do this = for a while your task bar fills up with these gnuclient DOS boxes which = don't go away until you do a kill-buffer on the buffer associated with the DOS = box. Am I doing something wrong here, or is this an unavoidable feature of = gnuclient? **** Paul Mitchell - NeoCortek, Inc. **** **** paul_mitchell@neocortek.com **** **** Tel: (508) 779-0355 Fax: (508) 779-2941 **** From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Sep 12 01:16:18 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "12" "September" "1996" "09:33:42" "" "Ralf Polster" "ralf@hact.de" nil "6" "Re: gnuclient" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id BAA12715 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:16:18 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id BAA18998 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:16:13 -0700 Received: from hact1.hact.de ([193.102.84.193]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id AAA10271 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 00:34:08 -0700 Received: from vertrieb.hact.de by hact1.hact.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0v16G6-0002A1C; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:32 MESZ Received: from io by vertrieb.hact.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0v16Ij-00027KC; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:35 MESZ Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: Halstenbach ACT GmbH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Reply-to: ralf@hact.de Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) From: "Ralf Polster" To: Paul Mitchell CC: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: gnuclient Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:33:42 -1 > Am I doing something wrong here, or is this an unavoidable feature of gnuclient? gnuclient has an option "-q", which terminates the gnuclient process after reading the file into emacs. Ralf From postmaster Thu Sep 12 09:28:38 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "12" "September" "1996" "09:32:00" "PDT" "John Keith" "John_Keith@ccm.jf.intel.com" nil "50" "Re[2]: gnuclient" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from ormail.intel.com (ormail.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id JAA17119 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:28:38 -0700 Received: from relay.jf.intel.com (relay.jf.intel.com [134.134.131.6]) by ormail.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00258 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ccmgate@localhost) by relay.jf.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA27701 for owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ccm.jf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #6) Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:28:33 PDT Message-ID: From: John Keith To: owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re[2]: gnuclient Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:32:00 PDT Text item: >> The gnuclient DOS box also seems to be responsible for the mapping >> to 8+3 mangled names. If I run gnuclient from the cmd line, I get long file names. If I run gnuclient by association from the NT explorer I get mangled names. Does anyone know why it would behave this way ? I'd prefer to visit files by their non-mangled names. -- jk Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Reply-To: pbreton@i-kinetics.com References: <01BBA01A.FDDC2EC0@pmc05.rt66.com> In-Reply-To: <01BBA01A.FDDC2EC0@pmc05.rt66.com> Subject: RE: gnuclient Cc: "ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu" To: "Charles S. Henkel" From: Peter Breton Message-Id: <199609121324.JAA10067@volte.i-kinetics.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:24:41 -0400 Received: by volte.i-kinetics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA10067; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:24:41 -0400 Received: from volte.i-kinetics.com by i-kinetics.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/UUNET) id AA22034; Thu, 12 Sep 96 09:25:40 EDT Received: from dirac.i-kinetics.com(192.31.81.157) by ns.i-kinetics.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005275; Thu Sep 12 09:26:29 1996 Received: (Unknown UID 8@localhost) by ns.i-kinetics.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) id JAA05 277; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:26:31 -0400 Received: from ns.i-kinetics.com (ns.i-kinetics.com [198.69.254.24]) by june.cs. washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id HAA05195 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 07:02:54 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by o rmail.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07968; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 07:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ormail.intel.com (ormail.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by relay.jf.i ntel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07442; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 07:39:33 -0700 ( PDT) Return-Path: owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Sep 12 09:44:01 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "12" "September" "1996" "16:53:09" "+0100" "Andrew Innes" "andrewi@harlequin.co.uk" nil "16" "Re: > gnuclient" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA19062 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:44:01 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id JAA19108 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:43:58 -0700 Received: from holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk (holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk [193.128.4.58]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA13492 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:53:27 -0700 Received: from propos.long.harlequin.co.uk by holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:53:13 +0100 Received: from elan.long.harlequin.co.uk (elan [193.128.93.78]) by propos.long.harlequin.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA01470; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:53:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199609121553.QAA01470@propos.long.harlequin.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199609121425.AA04582@lambda.unx.sas.com> (message from David Biesack on Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:25:09 -0400) From: Andrew Innes To: sasdjb@unx.sas.com Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: > gnuclient Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:53:09 +0100 On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:25:09 -0400, David Biesack said: [ .. ] >I took the gnuclient source and made a second gnuclientq.exe which has >the -q option set by default and use that in my file >associations. (Anyone know how to build an exe that NT can launch >without starting a console? I'm using VC 4.0 but I've only built console >apps) There is a very easy way to change the app type of any binary: Edit foo.exe in Emacs, isearch for "pe" and press RET. Then type M- 9 0 right (to go right 90 bytes). The character under the cursor should be ^C (this means the executable is marked as a console app). Change that character to ^B (GUI app), and save. AndrewI From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Sep 12 11:50:57 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "12" "September" "1996" "20:02:19" "+0200" "Clemens Lahme" "lahme@peppi.gmd.de" nil "15" "Re: > gnuclient" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA03955 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:50:57 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id LAA22470 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:50:53 -0700 Received: from mail.gmd.de (mail.gmd.de [129.26.8.90]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA27898 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:02:23 -0700 Received: from peppi.gmd.de (peppi) by mail.gmd.de with SMTP id AA00097 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:02:19 +0200 Received: by peppi.gmd.de id AA16377 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu); Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:02:19 +0200 Message-Id: <199609121802.AA16377@peppi.gmd.de> In-Reply-To: <199609121425.AA04582@lambda.unx.sas.com> (message from David Biesack on Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:25:09 -0400) From: Clemens Lahme To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: > gnuclient Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:02:19 +0200 Yet another gnuclient question. The emacs window (frame) does not raise up to the front and also does not get the focus after loading a file with gnuclient. I even tried it with gnudoit: gnudoit "(raise-frame (selected-frame))" But it didn't work, either. Does anybody know a solution. I am using ntemacs 19.32 under Windows 95 and the gnuserv package from cs.washington. Regards, Clemens after invoking gnuclient, the emac From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Oct 4 13:42:58 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" " 4" "October" "1996" "15:53:01" "-0400" "Peter Breton" "pbreton@volte-2.i-kinetics.com" nil "10" "Gnuserv Drag 'n Drop from Winfile" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA10619 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:42:58 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA26596 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:42:45 -0700 Received: from ns.i-kinetics.com (ns.i-kinetics.com [198.69.254.24]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id MAA06100 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:54:50 -0700 Received: from i-kinetics.com (dirac [192.31.81.157]) by ns.i-kinetics.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA00580; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:48:34 -0400 Received: from volte-2.i-kinetics.com ([192.31.81.196]) by i-kinetics.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/UUNET) id AA20782; Fri, 4 Oct 96 15:53:34 EDT Received: by volte-2.i-kinetics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA14382; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:53:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199610041953.PAA14382@volte-2.i-kinetics.com> In-Reply-To: <199610041852.LAA28023@june.cs.washington.edu> References: <199610041852.LAA28023@june.cs.washington.edu> Reply-To: pbreton@i-kinetics.com From: Peter Breton To: sj017gu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Gnuserv Drag 'n Drop from Winfile Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:53:01 -0400 sj017gu> Another question: I am not familiar with the lisp sj017gu> language. Is there a way to change the code not to open a sj017gu> new frame on every document sent by gnuclient? You need to change the variable gnuserv-frame. This hack works: (setq gnuserv-frame (car frame-list)) Peter From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Oct 4 14:43:11 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" " 4" "October" "1996" "16:58:09" "-0400" "David Biesack" "sasdjb@unx.sas.com" nil "53" "> Gnuserv Drag 'n Drop from Winfile" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA16782 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:43:10 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id OAA29948 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:43:09 -0700 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA11902 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:58:16 -0700 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA19672; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:58:14 -0400 Received: from lambda.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA27153; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:58:09 -0400 Received: by lambda.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA29333; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:58:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199610042058.AA29333@lambda.unx.sas.com> In-Reply-To: <199610041852.LAA28023@june.cs.washington.edu> (sj017gu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de) From: David Biesack To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: > Gnuserv Drag 'n Drop from Winfile Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:58:09 -0400 > From: sj017gu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de > Comments: Authenticated sender is > Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:54:24 +0000 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Priority: normal > > Hello EMacser, > > I am sorry to be a bit off-topic but I hope someone will help me too. > Why does emacs start when I drop a file on the gnuclientw shortcut on > my desktop from the explorer but not when I drop it from winfile? > > Is this normal behaviour? I think winfile and explorer use a different drag and drop mechanism. I use Explorer instead of winfile. winfile only seems to allow dropping on program items inside winfile. > Thanks for your help! > > Another question: I am not familiar with the lisp language. Is there > a way to change the code not to open a new frame on every document > sent by gnuclient? (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame)) will tell gnuserv to use the current existing frame. This will suffice if you normall work with and keep one frame. It would be nice if gnuserv.el *evaluated* the value of gnuserv-frame, so that you could just set it to '(default-frame). As is, if you ever delete the initial frame, guserv will revert back to opening new frames. To make it more bullet-proof, you can use advice: (load-library "advice") (defadvice server-edit-files (before server-use-default-frame activate) (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame))) (defadvice server-edit-files-quickly (before server-use-default-frame-q activate) (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame))) I think this works, if you put it in your .emacs after the place where you load gnuserv. advice.el has a pretty complicated activation mechanism, so YMMV. > Thanks, > > Martin Guddat From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Oct 8 13:26:32 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 8" "October" "1996" "15:42:02" "-0400" "David Biesack" "sasdjb@unx.sas.com" nil "24" "> Again Gnuclient" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA22600 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:26:31 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA27144 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:26:31 -0700 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id MAA19599 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:43:42 -0700 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA14407; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:43:40 -0400 Received: from lambda.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA15731; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:42:32 -0400 Received: by lambda.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA01722; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:42:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199610081942.AA01722@lambda.unx.sas.com> In-Reply-To: <199610081808.LAA09602@june.cs.washington.edu> (sj017gu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de) From: David Biesack To: sj017gu@unidui.uni-duisburg.de, ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: > Again Gnuclient Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:42:02 -0400 > Hello again, > > the GnuClient keeps me awake. Great program, but one drawback is > left: a few days ago someone asked to de-iconify emacs on gnuclient > request or to bring it to front. try this: (require 'advice) (defadvice server-edit-files (after server-raise-frame activate) (raise-frame (selected-frame)) (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame))) (defadvice server-edit-files (after server-raise-frame activate) (raise-frame (selected-frame)) (message "raising frame") (sit-for 1) (setq gnuserv-frame (selected-frame)))