From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Sep 11 07:39:56 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "11" "September" "1996" "09:49:45" "-0400" "Brian Gorka" "gorkab@sanchez.com" nil "15" "Strange gnus stuff" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id HAA06916 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:39:56 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id HAA15372 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:39:54 -0700 Received: from net.sanchez.com (net.sanchez.com [206.7.38.252]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id GAA02498 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 06:49:23 -0700 Received: from oz.sanchez.com ([140.140.1.251]) by net.sanchez.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11732) with SMTP id AAA174 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:49:24 -0400 Received: by oz.sanchez.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.838.14) id <01BB9FC6.91518380@oz.sanchez.com>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:49:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: gorkab@sanchez.com (Brian Gorka) To: "'EMACS Mailing List'" Subject: Strange gnus stuff Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:49:45 -0400 I'm not sure if this is an NT specific bug or not, but maube someone can help me out. I'm using NTEmacs 19.34, on windows NT 4.0. I've tried 4NT as my shell, as well as CMD.EXE that comes with NT, and TCSH. When trying to use gnus in a console window. It dies on the server authentication, saying that the authentication failed. It works fine in a regular window, but not as a console app. Is this an NT specific thing or is it a gnus thing? RMAIL works fine in a console window, so I don't think it's a console problem. From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Oct 4 08:04:53 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "" " 4" "October" "1996" "10:13:10" "-0400" "Richard Pieri" "ratinox@unilab.dfci.harvard.edu" nil "27" "Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA06487 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:04:53 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA21880 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:04:51 -0700 Received: from unilab.dfci.harvard.edu (unilab.dfci.harvard.edu [155.52.46.57]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id HAA03899 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:15:15 -0700 Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by unilab.dfci.harvard.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA22242; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:15:07 -0400 (EDT) References: <199610040459.MAA16225@nevyn.realize.com.au> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Bruce Cook's message of Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:59:37 +0800 Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.40/Emacs 19.34 From: Richard Pieri To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Cc: Gnus Subject: Re: 19.34/GNUS & Mail Date: 04 Oct 1996 10:13:10 -0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "BC" == Bruce Cook writes: BC> I upgraded to 19.34 from 19.31 on my NT system a couple BC> of days ago, and have started seeing weird shit happening BC> with forward-message from GNUS (Som). sendmail.el does not quite work correctly with Win32. You need to change send-mail-function to use smtpmail-send-it instead of sendmail-send-it. You may also need to likewise change message-send-mail-function. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMlUbd56VRH7BJMxHAQGZ/gP9HxZyjATN5KkTN/ZdmQF8H2jOyxST3sdJ qceSP3GUZH02eM9c7nV+1xSfYnDt5f/kJBXC/i7NROZL1SjOOZ6l+s70cgAbjYed mBt7schPBsMPmWD72c4PHZAtdset9iSuwfSre6787OEQDZkIEbyHbaXeWbvYeV/O 6rYU/Nis6jg= =hkxg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Richard Pieri/Information Services \ Curiosity never killed anything, except \ maybe a few hours. -A cat's guide to life http://www.dfci.harvard.edu/ \ From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Oct 9 14:58:29 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" " 9" "October" "1996" "08:55:30" "PDT" "Sridhar Boovaraghavan" "sridharb@soft.com" nil "28" "Gnus v5.3, Emacs 19.34 over modem using Windows 95" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA01844 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:38:57 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id OAA28974 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:38:52 -0700 Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp4.netcom.com [163.179.3.4]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA26043 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:39:37 -0700 Received: from sr0.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id JAA12297; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:10:41 -0700 X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) Message-ID: <9610090855.aa09177@sr0.soft.com> From: sridharb@soft.com (Sridhar Boovaraghavan) To: info-gnus-english@prep.ai.mit.edu, ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Gnus v5.3, Emacs 19.34 over modem using Windows 95 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 96 8:55:30 PDT Hi, I have to check in with my complaints about GNUS running over a 28.8 modem too. Andrew Innes recently posted (to the ntemacs-users list) some variables to look to reduce startup time. My problem is more of the actual header fetching in a newsgroup. Say if my newsgroup has 500 articles, the time it takes me to present me with a summary is incredibly long (order of 15-20 minutes). And the connection just hangs after sometime (the Modem statistics show that ~30k transmitted, 3-4M received) and nothing happens. I have to close the connection to Netcom (my ISP) and reconnect when things start perking up again. But I have lost all that work that GNUS did over the first 20 minutes. First off, why do 500 headers take up ~2M (assuming some for the active file etc.)? If one can score based on the content of an article (Is this possible?), does GNUS parse through the article too instead of just the headers (and is that one of reasons for the size downloaded)? I am running Emacs v19.34 on Windows 95. (GNUS v5.3) This is crossposted to both the ntemacs-users mailing list and the gnu.emacs. gnus newsgroup. Since I am not subscribed to gnu.emacs.gnus, could replies be e-mailed please? Thanks, Sridhar