From owner-ntemacs-users@june Sun Dec 22 20:33:28 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Sun" "22" "December" "1996" "17:48:41" "-0800" "Michael Hotchin" "mhotchin@microsoft.com" nil "33" "Problems with menu-bar-mode and scroll-bar-mode?" "^From:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id UAA05713 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:33:28 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id UAA22384 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:33:27 -0800 Received: from trout.cs.washington.edu (trout.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.178]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with ESMTP id TAA01301 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:51:37 -0800 Received: from INET-05-IMC.itg.microsoft.com (mail5.microsoft.com [131.107.3.31]) by trout.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ws+) with SMTP id RAA01538 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by INET-05-IMC.itg.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BBF030.94BEA880@INET-05-IMC.itg.microsoft.com>; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:50:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 33 TEXT From: Michael Hotchin To: "'ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu'" Subject: Problems with menu-bar-mode and scroll-bar-mode? Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:48:41 -0800 The docs for these two functions indicate that they apply both to current frames and alll subsequent frames. However, when I use them, new frames ignore them. I'm running: GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (i386-*-nt4.0) of Wed Aug 28 1996 on BANANA-FISH on: NT 4.0 build 1381 Service pack 2. Are there any known problems with these two functions? I don't have a non-NT system, so I can't try them on an X system to see if this is an NT specific problem or more widespread. I invoke them thusly: ;; The last thing EMACS needs is menus... (menu-bar-mode -1) (scroll-bar-mode -1) I have a work-around for the scroll-bars - I just put this in "default-frame-alist': (horizontal-scroll-bars . nil) (vertical-scroll-bars . nil) However, the menu mode is more tenacious. In any case, the docs indicate that I shouldn't need this at all. Mike H. From owner-ntemacs-users@june Sun Dec 22 22:47:25 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "23" "December" "1996" "01:22:24" "-0500" "Ivan Ganza" "iganza@ica.net" nil "11" "Problems with menu-bar-mode and scroll-bar-mode?" "^From:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id WAA09725 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:47:25 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id WAA22430 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:47:24 -0800 Received: from thunder (thunder.ica.net [24.112.1.1]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id WAA08990 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:18:04 -0800 Received: from box1-n2-ip12.ica.net (box1-n2-ip12.ica.net [24.112.2.12]) by thunder (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id qa100688 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:22:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: X-Info: Canada On-Line - http://www.ica.net/ Message-Id: <06222426508904@ica.net> From: Ivan Ganza To: Michael Hotchin Cc: "'ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu'" Subject: Problems with menu-bar-mode and scroll-bar-mode? Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:22:24 -0500 Michael Hotchin writes: > > I invoke them thusly: > > ;; The last thing EMACS needs is menus... > (menu-bar-mode -1) > (scroll-bar-mode -1) > Setting menu-bar-mode to 0 works for me. I am on NT 4.0. -Ivan