From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Jan 27 02:54:33 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "27" "January" "1997" "11:20:25" "+0100" "HANS ROSBACH" "HARO@dnv.com" nil "24" "Menus with key-bindings." "^From:" nil nil "1" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id CAA17113 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 02:54:33 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id CAA29671 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 02:54:32 -0800 Received: from osl96.dnv.com (dnv-gw.dnv.no.132.212.193.IN-ADDR.ARPA [193.212.132.34]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id CAA15124 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 02:20:38 -0800 Received: by osl96.dnv.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC0C44.26054400@osl96.dnv.com>; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:20:49 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "ROSBACH, HANS" To: "ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu" Subject: Menus with key-bindings. Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:20:25 +0100 I'm missing the key-bindings in the menus on NTEmacs. I have been used to them from XEmacs on unix, and from a question I asked recently on the comp.emacs group, I understand that on the unix version of Emacs the key-bindings are also shown. I found that having the key-bindings in the menus were a great help for me to learn Emacs when I started. They still are useful when learning a new package, or when that particular function of a package is not one I use too often. I also find that not having them makes it more difficult to get others to use Emacs. My argument is that Emacs is as easy to use as notepad, if you can use notepad at all, but infinitely more powerfull when you learn it. I would like to be able to say that Emacs is not that difficult to learn, but without the key-bindings shown in the menus, I'm not sure that is true. I hope that getting this corrected is high on the list of to-do items. NTEmacs is a great tool, I just hope to be able to persuade others too. Hans -- Hans Amund Rosbach haro@dnv.com