From unistein@isbe.ch Wed Oct 14 02:07:56 1998 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "14" "October" "1998" "11:03:47" "+0200" "Peter Steiner" "unistein@isbe.ch" "<98Oct14.110840gmt+0200.36871-2@limes.isbe.ch>" "51" "Re: wheel-mouse operations" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from isbe.ch (ns.isbe.ch [194.209.78.10]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.7+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id CAA02378; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:03:31 -0700 Received: by limes.isbe.ch id <36871-2>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:08:40 +0200 Message-Id: <98Oct14.110840gmt+0200.36871-2@limes.isbe.ch> References: <3.0.1.32.19981010023451.0074d820@pop.hol.fr> <199810140355.UAA25069@joker.cs.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <199810140355.UAA25069@joker.cs.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by june.cs.washington.edu id CAA02378 From: unistein@isbe.ch (Peter Steiner) To: Geoff Voelker Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: wheel-mouse operations Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:03:47 +0200 Geoff wrote on Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:51:58 +0200: > I have added these bits to the FAQ at: > > http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/voelker/ntemacs.html#intelli-problems > > I would like to fix these problems for the next release, though. I > skimmed through the Intellimouse SDK for any changes since the initial > release that might cause these problems, but I couldn't immediately > find any. However, I'm not familiar with these devices, and could > easily have overlooked something. Is there anyone out there who > understands what has changed since the devices initially appeared such > that it requires these "compatibility mode" options to be used, and > what should be changed in the event handling to use the devices > without the compatibility options? (Also note that I do not have one > of these devices...) > > -geoff You made me have a look. The first thing I looked at was the Logitech Helpfile. There are some notes that make me feel a little bit sick ;-) "If you use Microsoft® Office 97(TM) compatible applications extensively, you might wish to select the Office 97 Compatible Scroll feature for smoother scrolling." Note that I happily could avoid installing Office 97 to my PC. But all these things about MS don't help us further... More helpful facts: I looked at the output of Spy++ in a wheel-aware application (seems that most are?) - An Office 97 compatible wheel turn (one step) triggers a WM_MOUSEACTIVATE followed by a WM_MOUSEWHEEL - A "default" wheel turn triggers WM_INITMENUPOPUP WM_NCHITTEST WM_VSCROLL with SB_LINEDOWN (as many times as specified in mouse properties) WM_VSCROLL with SB_ENDSCROLL I left out the WM_PAINT messages. If you need more detailed behaviour report of my mouse wheel, let me know! Peter -- Peter Steiner unistein@isbe.ch