From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Sep 23 08:59:22 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "" "23" "September" "1996" "11:07:21" "-0400" "Michael Welsh Duggan" "md5i@schenley.com" nil "30" "Re: Emacs 19.34: ^M in (bash) shell buffer" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA28608 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:59:21 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA32043 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:59:20 -0700 Received: from maru.schenley.com (maru.schenley.com [206.62.188.70]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA26035 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:07:36 -0700 Received: by maru.schenley.com from localhost (router,SLmailNT V2.0); Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:07:23 EDT Received: by maru.schenley.com from maru.schenley.com (127.0.0.1::mail daemon; unverified,SLmailNT V2.0); Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:07:22 EDT References: <9609231237.AA25360@osfsrv.shr.dec.com> In-Reply-To: preilly@ROKCHR.shr.dec.com's message of Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:37:35 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.37/Emacs 19.32 From: "Michael Welsh Duggan" Sender: "Michael Welsh Duggan" To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Emacs 19.34: ^M in (bash) shell buffer Date: 23 Sep 1996 11:07:21 -0400 preilly@ROKCHR.shr.dec.com writes: > I leaped from 19.31 to 19.34 and started to get gratuitous ^M's in my > shell buffer (and some others, but I assume the cure will fix all of > them). And I seem to remember a message addressing this problem but > cannot find it. > > What is the cure? This depends on where you got your binaries. If you ftp'd the binaries that Voelker supplies, than the problem is more widespread that I thought, and I don't know an answer. If, however, you compiled the binaries from the source yourself, were you using MVC++ 4.2? If so, the first fix to use is to compile with MVC++ 4.1 instead (some default somewhere was changed behind our backs). If this is difficult to do, the following change fixes the problem for me in 4.2, as long as there are no gratuitous ^Zs output by your shell. (This change is not necessarily endorsed by the ntemacs maintainers.) Change the following line in nt.c rc = _pipe (phandles, 0, _O_NOINHERIT); to rc = _pipe (phandles, 0, _O_TEXT | _O_NOINHERIT); -- Michael Duggan (md5i@schenley.com) From rcourt@best.com Mon Sep 9 23:02:34 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" " 9" "September" "1996" "22:58:34" "-0700" "Ron Courtright" "rcourt@best.com" "<199609100602.XAA21865@dns1.noc.best.net>" "22" "comint-process-echoes appears broken in 19.34.1" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from dns1.noc.best.net (dns1.noc.best.net [206.86.8.69]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id XAA22704 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:02:33 -0700 Received: from locutus (rcourt.vip.best.com [206.86.223.116]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA21865 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:02:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199609100602.XAA21865@dns1.noc.best.net> Reply-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1141 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ron Courtright" To: Subject: comint-process-echoes appears broken in 19.34.1 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:58:34 -0700 Greetings, First, thank you for your efforts in making emacs available. I am using v19.34.1 on NT 4b2 and it appears that setting comint-process-echoes to t no longer stops the echo of the command when in shell mode. BTW, the command is echoed to the next line. If set to nil, then the command is echoed on the same line. If this is a case of user error, please advise. Again, thank you. Be seeing you, Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Courtright rcourt@best.com PGP Key ID: 4DF26355 PGP Key Fingerprint: 49 E4 D4 34 B1 4E 51 D1 94 65 CD 10 B2 A6 A4 52 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Sep 10 11:31:45 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "10" "September" "1996" "10:43:45" "-0700" "Mark D. Grosen" "mdgrosen@spectron.com" nil "15" "Solution: comint-completion-addsuffix" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA24872 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:31:45 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id LAA15532 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:31:41 -0700 Received: from nic.cerf.net (nic.cerf.net [192.102.249.3]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with ESMTP id KAA16661 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:43:59 -0700 Received: from spectron.COM ([146.152.131.1]) by nic.cerf.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA11435 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tsmbeta.spectron.com by spectron.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23160; Tue, 10 Sep 96 10:43:36 PDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960910174345.0086f4d0@spox> X-Sender: mg@spox X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "Mark D. Grosen" To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Solution: comint-completion-addsuffix Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:43:45 -0700 Well, I failed in my reading of the manual and missed the obvious solution to my problem with shell-mode-hook. The answer is below: Mark_McIntosh@pml.com: The Emacs add-hook function accepts an optional third argument, which if non-nil will force the hook to be appended to the hook list. Hence, the following does the trick: (add-hook 'shell-mode-hook '(lambda () (setq comint-completion-addsuffix t)) t) Thanks for all the help (and refraining from mere RTFM's :) Mark From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Sep 10 15:18:52 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "10" "September" "1996" "14:21:24" "-0700" "Eric Hanchrow" "erich@microsoft.com" nil "38" "RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA24448 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:18:51 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA15598 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:18:48 -0700 Received: from mail3.microsoft.com (mail3.microsoft.com [131.107.3.23]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA17741 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:22:10 -0700 Received: by mail3.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BB9F23.4FBBF390@mail3.microsoft.com>; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:21:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 38 TEXT From: Eric Hanchrow To: "'Ronald Courtright'" , NT GNU Emacs Users , "'ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:21:24 -0700 I've found that putting ;; To prevent all command lines from getting echoed. (add-hook 'shell-mode-hook '(lambda () (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args '("/q")))) in my .emacs keeps my commands from echoing. Also, if you want to get rid of those control-Ms: ;; To prevent unsightly control-Ms from showing up in the shell buffer. (add-hook 'comint-output-filter-functions 'comint-strip-ctrl-m) >-----Original Message----- From: Ronald Courtright [SMTP:rcourt@best.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 1996 12:48 PM To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 Greetings, I did not have this problem in v19.31, but in shell mode, the cmd is echoed on a newline. So, if I enter $ ls ls foo bar Same problem if I use an NT native cmd like 'dir.' I tried 'setq comint-process-noecho t' but to no avail. I am open to suggestions. Oh, yes, I am using NT v4b2. Regards, Ron From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Sep 10 15:32:04 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil t nil nil] [nil "Tue" "10" "September" "1996" "17:44:54" "-0400" "David Biesack" "sasdjb@unx.sas.com" nil "11" "ntemacs: cmd echos in shell buffers" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA26176 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:32:04 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA19188 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:32:00 -0700 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA20577 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:45:10 -0700 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA14596; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:45:09 -0400 Received: from lambda.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA29688; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:44:55 -0400 Received: by lambda.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA06453; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:44:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199609102144.AA06453@lambda.unx.sas.com> From: David Biesack To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: ntemacs: cmd echos in shell buffers Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:44:54 -0400 Someone recently asked about the commands they type in shell buffers being echoed. This is being done by cmd.exe, not comint. Set explicit-cmd-args to "/q" to suppress this echoing. Do cmd /? for more info. -- David J. Biesack sasdjb@unx.sas.com Object Programming Technology (919) 677-8000 ext 7771 SAS Institute Inc. SAS Campus Drive Cary, NC 27513 http://www.sas.com From rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu Wed Sep 11 00:50:34 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "11" "September" "1996" "03:50:29" "-0400" "Richard Stallman" "rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu" nil "26" "[erich@MICROSOFT.com: Some useful defaults for shell mode on Windows NT]" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu (ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.64]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id AAA08849 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:50:33 -0700 Received: by ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) id DAA20374; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:50:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199609110750.DAA20374@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: Richard Stallman To: voelker@cs.washington.edu, andrewi@harlequin.co.uk Subject: [erich@MICROSOFT.com: Some useful defaults for shell mode on Windows NT] Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 03:50:29 -0400 If you think something like this should be installed somewhere, could you please send me a patch to do it in a clean way? ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: Eric Hanchrow To: "'bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu'" Subject: Some useful defaults for shell mode on Windows NT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:10:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 15 TEXT In GNU Emacs 19.33.1 (i386-*-nt4.0) of Wed Aug 14 1996 on ERICH4 configured using `configure NT' I've found that the following code in my .emacs makes shell mode on Windows NT more pleasant; I suspect almost all other NT Emacs users would feel the same way, so I propose that these variables have these values by default on NT: ;; To prevent all command lines from getting echoed. (add-hook 'shell-mode-hook '(lambda () (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args '("/q")))) ;; To prevent unsightly control-Ms from showing up in the shell buffer. (add-hook 'comint-output-filter-functions 'comint-strip-ctrl-m) ------- End of forwarded message ------- From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Sep 11 08:53:38 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "11" "September" "1996" "10:57:47" "-0400" "David Biesack" "sasdjb@unx.sas.com" nil "15" "> killing shell buffer" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA13965 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:53:37 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA25116 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:53:34 -0700 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id HAA08349 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 07:58:33 -0700 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA19713; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:58:31 -0400 Received: from lambda.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA26928; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:57:48 -0400 Received: by lambda.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA07711; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:57:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199609111457.AA07711@lambda.unx.sas.com> In-Reply-To: <9609111306.AA22278@ss5mth01.franklin.com> (mike@franklin.com) From: David Biesack To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: > killing shell buffer Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:57:47 -0400 > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 09:06:41 EDT > From: mike@franklin.com (Mike Woolf) > > Running emacs-19.34 in Windows 95, "M-x shell" starts up a DOS shell buffer. > Two questions: > > 1. Is there a way to run some sort of "autoexec.bat" so that certain > things (like the prompt) can be set up in advance? Set explicit-cmd.exe-args to '("/q" "/kc:\\startup.cmd") -- David J. Biesack sasdjb@unx.sas.com Object Programming Technology (919) 677-8000 ext 7771 SAS Institute Inc. SAS Campus Drive Cary, NC 27513 http://www.sas.com From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Sep 11 13:54:59 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "11" "September" "1996" "12:12:33" "-0700" "Eric Hanchrow" "erich@microsoft.com" nil "45" "RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA17858 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:54:59 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA19082 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:54:55 -0700 Received: from mail.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.41]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA12131 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:07:02 -0700 Received: by mail.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.24) id <01BB9FDA.BCFE7420@mail.microsoft.com>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:14:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.24 Encoding: 45 TEXT From: Eric Hanchrow To: NT GNU Emacs Users , "'ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:12:33 -0700 For some reason, my fix (below) for suppressing echoes in the shell buffer only works the *second* time I do M-x shell in an Emacs session. >-----Original Message----- >From: Eric Hanchrow >Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 1996 02:21 PM >To: 'Ronald Courtright'; NT GNU Emacs Users; ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu >Subject: RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 > >I've found that putting > > ;; To prevent all command lines from getting echoed. > (add-hook 'shell-mode-hook '(lambda () (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args >'("/q")))) > >in my .emacs keeps my commands from echoing. > >Also, if you want to get rid of those control-Ms: > > ;; To prevent unsightly control-Ms from showing up in the shell buffer. > (add-hook 'comint-output-filter-functions 'comint-strip-ctrl-m) > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ronald Courtright [SMTP:rcourt@best.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 1996 12:48 PM >To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu >Subject: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 > >Greetings, > >I did not have this problem in v19.31, but in shell mode, the cmd is echoed >on a newline. So, if I enter >$ ls >ls >foo bar >Same problem if I use an NT native cmd like 'dir.' > >I tried 'setq comint-process-noecho t' but to no avail. > >I am open to suggestions. Oh, yes, I am using NT v4b2. > >Regards, > >Ron From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Sep 11 15:28:22 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "11" "September" "1996" "17:36:04" "-0400" "Peter Breton" "pbreton@volte.i-kinetics.com" nil "41" "RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA27701 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:28:22 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA21329 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:28:18 -0700 Received: from ns.i-kinetics.com (ns.i-kinetics.com [198.69.254.24]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA22765 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:38:14 -0700 Received: (Unknown UID 8@localhost) by ns.i-kinetics.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) id RAA29969; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:38:05 -0400 Received: from dirac.i-kinetics.com(192.31.81.157) by ns.i-kinetics.com via smap (V1.3) id sma029966; Wed Sep 11 17:37:45 1996 Received: from volte.i-kinetics.com by i-kinetics.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/UUNET) id AA13804; Wed, 11 Sep 96 17:37:02 EDT Received: by volte.i-kinetics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA21461; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:36:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199609112136.RAA21461@volte.i-kinetics.com> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: pbreton@i-kinetics.com From: Peter Breton To: Eric Hanchrow Cc: NT GNU Emacs Users , "'ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: how to not echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:36:04 -0400 Eric> For some reason, my fix (below) for suppressing echoes in the Eric> shell buffer only works the *second* time I do M-x shell in an Eric> Emacs session. Quite likely your setq is taking effect _after_ explicit-cmd.exe-args has been consulted! This works well for me: (defvar cmd-init-file (concat my-home "\\cmdinit.cmd")) (defvar explicit-cmd-args (list "/q" (concat "/k" cmd-init-file))) ;; NT-Shell (defun nt-shell () "Runs the Windows NT native shell" (interactive) (let ((explicit-shell-file-name "cmd")) (shell) (make-local-variable 'explicit-shell-file-name) (setq explicit-shell-file-name "cmd"))) It also lets you run multiple shells, if desired; just define similar bash and tcsh (and whatever) functions. Peter >> -----Original Message----- From: Eric Hanchrow Sent: Tuesday, >> September 10, 1996 02:21 PM To: 'Ronald Courtright'; NT GNU Emacs >> Users; ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: RE: how to not >> echo shell command in NT v19.34.1 >> >> I've found that putting >> >> ;; To prevent all command lines from getting echoed. (add-hook >> 'shell-mode-hook '(lambda () (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args >> '("/q")))) >> >> in my .emacs keeps my commands from echoing. >> From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Sep 30 10:57:14 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "30" "September" "1996" "11:23:51" "CDT" "George D. Hadden" "hadden@htc.honeywell.com" nil "105" "yet another fix for double echo in shell" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id KAA20161 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:57:13 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id KAA17941 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:57:11 -0700 Received: from moon.htc.honeywell.com (moon.htc.honeywell.com [129.235.16.32]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA10119 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:23:54 -0700 Received: from nirvana.htc.honeywell.com by moon.htc.honeywell.com (4.1/smail2.6.3/SRCv0.25); Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:52 CDT id AA16801 for ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu at cs.washington.edu Posted-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT Received: by nirvana.htc.honeywell.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA25853; Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT Message-Id: <9609301623.AA25853@nirvana.htc.honeywell.com> From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: yet another fix for double echo in shell Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT i'm having a problem with processes echoing input that doesn't seem to be fixed by setting comint-process-echoes to t. i think there's a bug in comint.el AND i have a suggested fix for it. (can someone tell me the appropriate protocol to submit this bug report and fix? thanks.) although, i DO wonder why this hasn't been reported on the newsgroup ... maybe something else i did broke it ... :-} here's the problem. note the unwanted echoing occurs either on the same line as the input or the following line depending on whether comint-process-echoes is t or nil. Microsoft(R) Windows 95 (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1995. rem comint-process-echoes --> t rem comint-input-autoexpand --> history uh, clem? C:\TEMP>dirdir Volume in drive C is MS-DOS_62 Volume Serial Number is 1CFD-182F Directory of C:\TEMP . 07-10-95 1:51p . .. 07-10-95 1:51p .. T 0 09-30-96 10:58a t 1 file(s) 0 bytes 2 dir(s) 46,891,008 bytes free rem comint-process-echoes --> nil uh, clem? C:\TEMP>dir dir Volume in drive C is MS-DOS_62 Volume Serial Number is 1CFD-182F Directory of C:\TEMP . 07-10-95 1:51p . .. 07-10-95 1:51p .. T 0 09-30-96 10:58a t 1 file(s) 0 bytes 2 dir(s) 46,891,008 bytes free uh, clem? C:\TEMP> the reason for the problem and it's fix should be clear from my comments in the function comint-send-input (from the file comint.el) shown below: (defun comint-send-input () ... stuff deleted ... (history (if (not (eq comint-input-autoexpand 'history)) input ;; This is messy 'cos ultimately the original ;; functions used do insertion, rather than return ;; strings. We have to expand, then insert back. (comint-replace-by-expanded-history t) (let ((copy (buffer-substring pmark (point)))) ;; geo: the following has the unfortunate ;; consequence of eliminating the difference ;; between pmark and point. this causes a double ;; same-line echo of the command because of the ;; now ineffective delete-region below. ;; ;; changing insert-before-markers to insert ;; seems to fix the problem by allowing pmark ;; to remain before the input and thus allowing ;; the subsequent delete-region to work correctly ;; (delete-region pmark (point)) ; (insert-before-markers input) (insert input) copy)))) (if comint-process-echoes (delete-region pmark (point)) (insert-before-markers ?\n)) ... stuff deleted ... here's the same shell command after evaluating the function with the above changes: uh, clem? C:\TEMP>dir Volume in drive C is MS-DOS_62 Volume Serial Number is 1CFD-182F Directory of C:\TEMP . 07-10-95 1:51p . .. 07-10-95 1:51p .. T 0 09-30-96 10:58a t 1 file(s) 0 bytes 2 dir(s) 46,858,240 bytes free uh, clem? C:\TEMP> (no, i didn't fix the ^M problem - sorry :-) comments? -geo --- George D. Hadden, Senior Research Fellow Honeywell Technology Center, 3660 Technology Drive, Minneapolis, MN 55418 hadden@src.honeywell.com, (612)951-7769(voice), (612)951-7438(fax) > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT > From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) > > i'm having a problem with processes echoing input that doesn't seem to > be fixed by setting comint-process-echoes to t. The correct fix is to start cmd.exe with the /q option via (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args "/q") where explicit-shell-file-name is "cmd.exe". If you use a different explicit-shell-file-name, set the explicit-*-args variable accordingly. That is, cmd.exe is echoing the commands, not comint From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Sep 30 13:52:03 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "30" "September" "1996" "15:59:24" "-0400" "David Biesack" "sasdjb@unx.sas.com" nil "15" "> yet another fix for double echo in shell" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA08915 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:52:02 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA27536 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:52:01 -0700 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id MAA04316 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:59:37 -0700 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA12271; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:59:30 -0400 Received: from lambda.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA21464; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:59:24 -0400 Received: by lambda.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA08792; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:59:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199609301959.AA08792@lambda.unx.sas.com> In-Reply-To: <9609301623.AA25853@nirvana.htc.honeywell.com> (hadden@htc.honeywell.com) From: David Biesack To: hadden@htc.honeywell.com, ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: > yet another fix for double echo in shell Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:59:24 -0400 > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT > From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) > > i'm having a problem with processes echoing input that doesn't seem to > be fixed by setting comint-process-echoes to t. The correct fix is to start cmd.exe with the /q option via (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args "/q") where explicit-shell-file-name is "cmd.exe". If you use a different explicit-shell-file-name, set the explicit-*-args variable accordingly. That is, cmd.exe is echoing the commands, not comint From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Sep 30 16:50:15 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "30" "September" "1996" "18:20:13" "-0500" "Milt Epstein" "epstein@cd.com" nil "41" "Re: shell-command and shell-command-on-region" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA25992 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:50:15 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id QAA27379 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:50:13 -0700 Received: from beltway (beltway.cd.com [204.217.30.66]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA22273 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:08:45 -0700 Received: from bif.cd.com by beltway (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03363; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:07:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by bif.cd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27385; Mon, 30 Sep 96 18:20:13 CDT In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Milt Epstein Sender: epstein@cd.com To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: shell-command and shell-command-on-region Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:20:13 -0500 (CDT) On 30 Sep 1996, Brent Benson wrote: > Chris Kolb writes: > > > > Good Morning, I've been running emacs for years on Unix systems, and am > > just switching to PC's, and I'm having problems with the shell-command and > > shell-command-on-region. Shell-mode operates as expected, and invokes my > > prefered shell (currently MKS's Korn shell). The shell-command and > > shell-command on region return the following message: "/c: /c: not found". > > You should use: > > (setq shell-command-switch "-c") > > in your .emacs file. I ran into this same problem (except I'm using tcsh), and this is the same solution I came up with. It took a little bit of poking around to find out what was going on. The problem is that the following line appears in winnt.el (which is automatically loaded from loadup.el, which I believe means it's effectively compiled in to the dumped emacs): (setq shell-command-switch "/c") This effectively makes the assumption that everyone using ntemacs is using cmd.exe as their shell (or some command interpreter that uses "/" style switches as opposed to "-" style ones) -- this assumption is too strong, since lots of people are using UNIX-type shells like bash, ksh, and tcsh. Wouldn't it be better if instead of hard-coding this setting, it was placed inside a conditional and/or a hook, so that it could check which shell was being used before setting it? (I'm not sure what the conditional should check for or whether an appropriate hook exists, although there appears to be a shell-mode-hook.) Milt Epstein Software Engineer Central Data Corporation epstein@cd.com WWW: http://www.cd.com/ FTP: ftp.cd.com From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Sep 30 16:58:48 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "30" "September" "1996" "18:03:48" "CDT" "George D. Hadden" "hadden@htc.honeywell.com" nil "50" "Re: > yet another fix for double echo in shell" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA26870 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:58:47 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id QAA16630 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:58:45 -0700 Received: from moon.htc.honeywell.com (moon.htc.honeywell.com [129.235.16.32]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA21855 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:03:51 -0700 Received: from nirvana.htc.honeywell.com by moon.htc.honeywell.com (4.1/smail2.6.3/SRCv0.25); Mon, 30 Sep 96 18:03:50 CDT id AA24224 for ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu at cs.washington.edu Posted-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 18:03:48 CDT Received: by nirvana.htc.honeywell.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA27059; Mon, 30 Sep 96 18:03:48 CDT Message-Id: <9609302303.AA27059@nirvana.htc.honeywell.com> In-Reply-To: <199609301959.AA08792@lambda.unx.sas.com> (message from David Biesack on Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:59:24 -0400) From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) To: sasdjb@unx.sas.com Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: > yet another fix for double echo in shell Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 18:03:48 CDT >>>>> "DB" == David Biesack writes: >> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT >> From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) >> >> i'm having a problem with processes echoing input that doesn't seem to >> be fixed by setting comint-process-echoes to t. DB> The correct fix is to start cmd.exe with the /q option via DB> (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args "/q") DB> where explicit-shell-file-name is "cmd.exe". If you use a different DB> explicit-shell-file-name, set the explicit-*-args variable accordingly. DB> That is, cmd.exe is echoing the commands, not comint david, thanks for your response. unfortunately, i tried this and it doesn't work for me. i think that there's a bug in the elisp code, and i'm looking for verification of this and comments on the solution proposed in my previous message. again, here are the conditions that make this bug appear: 1) windows 95 (although this shouldn't matter) 2) comint-input-autoexpand --> 'history 3) comint-process-echoes --> t incidentally, since they're buffer-local symbols, performing the (setq comint-input-autexpand 'history) and the (setq comint-process-echoes t) in the *scratch* buffer will not do what you want. you must instead execute the command "eval-expression", and then type the expressions to it while in the *shell* buffer. (there's probably a better way, but i don't know it :-) so, is there anyone out there for whom this also fails, or am i halucinating? thanks, -geo --- George D. Hadden, Senior Research Fellow Honeywell Technology Center, 3660 Technology Drive, Minneapolis, MN 55418 hadden@src.honeywell.com, (612)951-7769(voice), (612)951-7438(fax) From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Oct 1 09:25:32 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 1" "October" "1996" "10:51:32" "-0400" "Dave Strauss" "dstrauss@systemsoft.com" nil "50" "Re: > yet another fix for double echo in shell" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA26026 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:25:32 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id JAA26943 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:25:31 -0700 Received: from ssftsun.systemsoft.com (ssftsun.leftbank.com [199.94.246.68]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id HAA18725 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:50:52 -0700 Received: from dstrauss ([199.94.246.187]) by ssftsun.systemsoft.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/LeftBank-SystemSoft-1.0) with SMTP id KAA00049; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961001145132.0092b7fc@ssftsun.systemsoft.com> X-Sender: dstrauss@ssftsun.systemsoft.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Dave Strauss To: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: > yet another fix for double echo in shell Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:51:32 -0400 At 06:03 PM 9/30/96 CDT, George D. Hadden wrote: +---- | >>>>> "DB" == David Biesack writes: | | >> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT | >> From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) | >> | >> i'm having a problem with processes echoing input that doesn't seem to | >> be fixed by setting comint-process-echoes to t. | | DB> The correct fix is to start cmd.exe with the /q option via | | DB> (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args "/q") | | DB> where explicit-shell-file-name is "cmd.exe". If you use a different | DB> explicit-shell-file-name, set the explicit-*-args variable accordingly. | | DB> That is, cmd.exe is echoing the commands, not comint | | david, thanks for your response. unfortunately, i tried this and it | doesn't work for me. i think that there's a bug in the elisp | code, and i'm looking for verification of this and comments on the solution | proposed in my previous message. | | again, here are the conditions that make this bug appear: | 1) windows 95 (although this shouldn't matter) Actually, this DOES matter because Win95 uses command.com, not cmd.exe, as the command shell. The arguments to command.com are different than for cmd.exe. I have this working on my Win95 machine at home, but I've forgotten how it's set up :-(. For Windows NT, I have (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args '("/q") ) in my .emacs file. I seem to recall that for Win95 I have (setq explicit-command.com-args nil) but I'll have to check that. | [ ... ] | +---- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best ideas do not | Dave Strauss@work dstrauss@systemsoft.com necessarily come from | http://www.systemsoft.com the loudest voices" | Phone: 508-647-2873 | Fax: 508-651-8188 | | Dave Strauss@play dstrauss@gis.net | http://www.gis.net/~dstrauss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Oct 1 11:06:16 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 1" "October" "1996" "11:32:02" "CDT" "George D. Hadden" "hadden@htc.honeywell.com" nil "73" "Re: > yet another fix for double echo in shell" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA10655 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:06:16 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id LAA27491 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:06:15 -0700 Received: from moon.htc.honeywell.com (moon.htc.honeywell.com [129.235.16.32]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA26563 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:32:05 -0700 Received: from nirvana.htc.honeywell.com by moon.htc.honeywell.com (4.1/smail2.6.3/SRCv0.25); Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:32:03 CDT id AA08366 for ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu at cs.washington.edu Posted-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:32:02 CDT Received: by nirvana.htc.honeywell.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA01594; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:32:02 CDT Message-Id: <9610011632.AA01594@nirvana.htc.honeywell.com> In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961001145132.0092b7fc@ssftsun.systemsoft.com> (message from Dave Strauss on Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:51:32 -0400) From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) To: dstrauss@systemsoft.com Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: > yet another fix for double echo in shell Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:32:02 CDT ok, one more time!!! my note and david's response: >>>>> "DB" == David Biesack writes: >> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:23:51 CDT >> From: hadden@htc.honeywell.com (George D. Hadden) >> >> i'm having a problem with processes echoing input that doesn't seem to >> be fixed by setting comint-process-echoes to t. DB> The correct fix is to start cmd.exe with the /q option via DB> (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args "/q") DB> where explicit-shell-file-name is "cmd.exe". If you use a different DB> explicit-shell-file-name, set the explicit-*-args variable accordingly. DB> That is, cmd.exe is echoing the commands, not comint david, thanks for your response. unfortunately, i tried this and it doesn't work for me. i think that there's a bug in the elisp code, and i'm looking for verification of this and comments on the solution proposed in my previous message. again, here are the conditions that make this bug appear: 1) windows 95 (although this shouldn't matter) 2) comint-input-autoexpand --> 'history 3) comint-process-echoes --> t incidentally, since they're buffer-local symbols, performing the (setq comint-input-autexpand 'history) and the (setq comint-process-echoes t) in the *scratch* buffer will not do what you want. you must instead execute the command "eval-expression", and then type the expressions to it while in the *shell* buffer. (there's probably a better way, but i don't know it :-) so, is there anyone out there for whom this also fails, or am i halucinating? another david's response (refering to the w95 comment): Actually, this DOES matter because Win95 uses command.com, not cmd.exe, as the command shell. The arguments to command.com are different than for cmd.exe. I have this working on my Win95 machine at home, but I've forgotten how it's set up :-(. For Windows NT, I have (setq explicit-cmd.exe-args '("/q") ) in my .emacs file. I seem to recall that for Win95 I have (setq explicit-command.com-args nil) but I'll have to check that. i'm not sure why i'm having so much trouble making myself clear here, but i'll give it one more shot :-) david (both of you), you would be right, if a particular path through the elisp of comint.el were taken. however the settings of the variables above (incidentally shell.el sets comint-input-autoexpand to 'history) cause it to take a different path. this path contains a bug (i believe) that i describe in a previous message. i'm just trying to get a second opinion on whether it's really a bug, at which point (i might not wait that long given how this thread is progressing :-), i'll submit it to fsf (?). thanks, everyone, for your patience, and i hope that some of this has been edifying thus far. -geo From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Sep 19 15:19:58 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "19" "September" "1996" "17:42:11" "EDT" "Andrew Innes" "andrewi@harlequin.com" nil "15" "Re: emacs and system shutdown" "^From:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id PAA16439 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:19:58 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id PAA30755 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:19:56 -0700 Received: from hilly.harlequin.com (hilly.harlequin.com [198.3.232.58]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA11845 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 14:43:47 -0700 Received: from epcot.harlequin.com by hilly.harlequin.com; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:42:15 -0400 Received: from romulus.harlequin.com by epcot.harlequin.com; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 17:42:12 -0400 Message-Id: <23983.9609192142@romulus.harlequin.com> In-Reply-To: <199609191808.LAA04346@andyd2.scruznet.com> (aed@scruz.net) From: Andrew Innes To: aed@scruz.net Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: emacs and system shutdown Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 17:42:11 EDT On Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:08:25 -0700, aed@scruz.net said: > >any idea why I can not shutdown my machine once I have started emacs? >I always have to cycle the power :-( (yes I have quit emacs cleanly) Probably because you are running Emacs on Windows 95, and you have left a shell buffer open running command.com or some other DOS program. On Windows 95, Emacs cannot kill off DOS programs (as it tries to do when you kill Emacs), and the end result of trying is that the DOS process still exists as some sort of zombie process. There is some documentation of this problem in the manual and the NEWS file - type C-h n to read NEWS. AndrewI From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Oct 1 18:19:37 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 1" "October" "1996" "17:25:38" "-0700" "Jonathan Payne" "jpayne@marimba.com" nil "13" "comint-previous-matching-input" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id SAA26513 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 18:19:37 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id SAA17965 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 18:19:36 -0700 Received: from marimba.com (marimba.com [207.33.72.2]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id RAA20681 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:26:47 -0700 Received: from kirks.marimba.com by marimba.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA09633; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:26:19 -0700 Received: by kirks.marimba.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA26572; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:25:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199610020025.RAA26572@kirks.marimba.com> In-reply-to: <9610012121.AA03303@nirvana.htc.honeywell.com> (hadden@htc.honeywell.com) From: jpayne@marimba.com (Jonathan Payne) To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: comint-previous-matching-input Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:25:38 -0700 This is bound to Meta-R in shell windows I believe. On my UNIX machine, running 19.27, typing Meta-R repeatedly invokes the reverse search on the previous string I used. On the PC it seems to use the null string, and find the most recent command I typed. In order to keep going back in history I have to re-type the same command repeatedly. Is this an NT thing or a 19.33.1 thing, or what? Thanks. JP From owner-ntemacs-users@june Thu Oct 17 19:48:56 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "17" "October" "1996" "22:11:27" "EDT" "Peter Breton" "pbreton@dirac.i-kinetics.com" nil "37" "Directory change implicit in \"M-x compil" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id TAA03735 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:48:56 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id TAA32130 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:48:54 -0700 Received: from ns.i-kinetics.com (ns.i-kinetics.com [198.69.254.24]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id TAA01613 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:12:41 -0700 Received: from i-kinetics.com (dirac [192.31.81.157]) by ns.i-kinetics.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA20371; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:06:12 -0400 Received: by i-kinetics.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/UUNET) id AA17133; Thu, 17 Oct 96 22:11:27 EDT Message-Id: <9610180211.AA17133@i-kinetics.com> In-Reply-To: <199610180140.SAA11910@fandango.lucasarts.com> References: <199610180140.SAA11910@fandango.lucasarts.com> Reply-To: pbreton@i-kinetics.com From: Peter Breton To: Bret Mogilefsky Cc: "'ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu'" Subject: Directory change implicit in "M-x compil Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 22:11:27 EDT Bret> My major problem is that there is no way to pin any Bret> compilations you do to a particular directory for all your Bret> buffers in compile.el. Short of that, the default behavior is Bret> getting in my way: When I do M-x compile, compile.el inserts Bret> (insert "cd " thisdir "\n" command "\n") in the buffer prior to Bret> compilation, where "thisdir" is set to default-directory. Bret> Unfortunately, due to all of our terrific expand-file-name Bret> code, this string uses forward-slashes instead of back-slashes, Bret> which of course cmd.exe chokes on. Does anyone have a Bret> suggestion for cleanly getting around this? The 'compile-internal' function uses the value of default-directory, which suggests to me that you could wrap compile in another function, like this: (defun my-compile () (interactive) (let ((default-directory (convert-slashes default-directory))) (call-interactively 'compile))) 'Convert-slashes' is left as an exercise for the reader :) If you know that you'll _always_ _always_ want backslashes, advice is probably the cleanest way to do it, perhaps like this: (defadvice compile (around use-backslashes activate) "Convert default directory to all backslashes" (let ((default-directory (convert-slashes default-directory))) ad-do-it )) Note that I haven't tested either of these. You could extend this idea to compile in any directory. Peter From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Oct 22 21:34:46 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" "22" "October" "1996" "23:56:45" "-0400" "Jacob Colman" "jcolman@jnc.com" nil "21" "shell-mode problems" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id VAA28390 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:34:45 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id VAA33741 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:34:41 -0700 Received: from j51.com (gorplex.j51.com [199.224.7.51]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id UAA26766 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:57:48 -0700 Received: from jcolman.jnc.com (pmb4.j51.com [165.254.214.36]) by j51.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA27428 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961023035645.00696100@pop.j51.com> X-Sender: jcolman@pop.j51.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "Jacob Colman (JNC Consulting Group)" To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: shell-mode problems Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:56:45 -0400 I am having problems with shell-mode. I have implemented some of the suggestions given me by other users but I am not having much luck. Using the prebuilt distribution, shell-mode works for the most part provided I set "comint-process-echoes t". I have recently downloaded source code and done my own build and now I am getting ^M at the end of every line. I can correct it by spcifying a comint hook to stip ^M and that works well. Process shells, however, (such as that used by diff, grep, compile, etc.) still have the ^M. This becomes a problem whrn using ediff since it cannot parse the diffs buffer. The prebuilt distribution was apparantly built using NT4.0 (at least so says emacs-version). Mine was built using NT351, and MSVC 4.2. Can this be the difference? In any case, for NT351, what is the appropriate way to configure shell-mode such that both interactive and non-interactive shells work properly? --- Jake Colman email: jcolman@jnc.com JNC Consulting Group Inc. Phone: (914) 368-2765 42 Olympia Lane FAX : (914) 368-2765 Monsey, NY 10952 From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Oct 23 06:59:08 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "" "23" "October" "1996" "08:56:21" "-0400" "Michael Welsh Duggan" "md5i@schenley.com" nil "32" "Re: shell-mode problems" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id GAA22366 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:59:08 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id GAA26487 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:59:05 -0700 Received: from maru.schenley.com (maru.schenley.com [206.62.188.70]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id FAA18018 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 05:57:05 -0700 Received: by maru.schenley.com from localhost (router,SLmailNT V2.0); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:56:23 EDT Received: by maru.schenley.com from maru.schenley.com (127.0.0.1::mail daemon; unverified,SLmailNT V2.0); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:56:22 EDT References: <2.2.32.19961023035645.00696100@pop.j51.com> In-Reply-To: "Jacob Colman's message of Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:56:45 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.37/Emacs 19.32 From: "Michael Welsh Duggan" Sender: "Michael Welsh Duggan" To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: shell-mode problems Date: 23 Oct 1996 08:56:21 -0400 "Jacob Colman (JNC Consulting Group)" writes: > > I am having problems with shell-mode. I have implemented some of the > suggestions given me by other users but I am not having much luck. Using > the prebuilt distribution, shell-mode works for the most part provided I set > "comint-process-echoes t". I have recently downloaded source code and done > my own build and now I am getting ^M at the end of every line. I can > correct it by spcifying a comint hook to stip ^M and that works well. > Process shells, however, (such as that used by diff, grep, compile, etc.) > still have the ^M. This becomes a problem whrn using ediff since it cannot > parse the diffs buffer. > > The prebuilt distribution was apparantly built using NT4.0 (at least so says > emacs-version). Mine was built using NT351, and MSVC 4.2. Can this be the > difference? Yes, at least to the 4.2 part. This can be fixed by changing the following line in sys_pipe() in nt.c. rc = _pipe (phandles, 0, _O_NOINHERIT); to rc = _pipe (phandles, 0, _O_TEXT | _O_NOINHERIT); I believe that in the next version, emacs will not rely on the default text-mode CR stripping. -- Michael Duggan (md5i@schenley.com) From owner-ntemacs-users@june Fri Nov 22 16:04:08 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Fri" "22" "November" "1996" "15:14:27" "-0800" "Jeff Finger" "jfinger@adobe.com" nil "20" "winnt.el fix for command completion slashes" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with SMTP id QAA29078 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:00:56 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id QAA30151 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:00:54 -0800 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with ESMTP id PAA25283 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:14:00 -0800 Received: by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.7.5) with ESMTP id PAA20446; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.7.5) with ESMTP id PAA12164; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by elroy.corp.Adobe.COM (8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA06737; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:14:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611222314.PAA06737@elroy.corp.Adobe.COM> Phone: (408) 536-2047 Office: SJ W14-422 From: jfinger@Adobe.COM (Jeff Finger) Sender: jfinger@Adobe.COM To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: winnt.el fix for command completion slashes Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:14:27 -0800 Paul_Koning@3mail.3Com.COM just pointed out to me that > You can add your shell hook at the end, see the elisp docs. > (In brief: there's an optional 3rd argument to add-hook; if not nil, the > new hook is added to the end rather than the start of the list.) This is obviously a much better solution. Thanks, Paul! Jeff Finger >From M-x describe-function: add-hook: a compiled Lisp function. (add-hook HOOK FUNCTION &optional APPEND LOCAL) Add to the value of HOOK the function FUNCTION. FUNCTION is not added if already present. FUNCTION is added (if necessary) at the beginning of the hook list unless the optional argument APPEND is non-nil, in which case FUNCTION is added at the end. ... From owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Tue Jul 1 09:19:35 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 1" "July" "1997" "08:27:24" "-0700" "chrisc@analogy.com" "chrisc@analogy.com" nil "27" "Shell in shell mode is not a tty" "^From:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id JAA06100 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:19:34 -0700 Received: from trout.cs.washington.edu (trout.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.178]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id JAA33122 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:19:32 -0700 Received: (majordom@localhost) by trout.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ws+) id IAA01574 for ntemacs-users-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by trout.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA01570 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from services (services.analogy.com [149.117.1.2]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA03398 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:36:14 -0700 Received: from analogy.com (analogy.analogy.com) by services (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05630; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:37:19 -0700 Received: from exchange.analogy.com by analogy.com (4.1/Shared_Spool_1.3) id AA16617; Tue, 1 Jul 97 08:35:40 PDT Received: by exchange.analogy.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:27:27 -0700 Message-Id: <07E50AC2610AD01194D600805FE27DF8305AC3@exchange.analogy.com> X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk From: chrisc@analogy.com Sender: owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Shell in shell mode is not a tty Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:27:24 -0700 Hi All, I am running 19.34 ntemacs on windows nt 4.0. I am using mks shell. I have noticed that some commands hang when executed in shell mode of ntemacs but not when executed from the dos command line. The reason, in my case, for this is that the shell in shell mode is not a tty. This is confirmed by typing tty, the response will be "not a tty". If I type tty on the dos command line window running mks shell I get "CONS$0". I have looked at the source for the programs with the problem and found a block that checks if the shell is a tty if not nothing is sent to stdout. Does anyone know how I can make my shell in shell mode be a tty? I have noticed alot of email concerned with shell mode ntemacs problems. THis may be the cause of alot of it. Thanks, Chris Campbell Analogy, Beaverton OR USA