From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Feb 4 14:13:34 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 4" "February" "1997" "16:29:35" "-0500" "Tom Horsley" "tom@amber.ssd.hcsc.com" nil "12" "Re: Telnet?" "^From:" nil nil "2" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA20383 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:13:33 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id OAA19044 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:13:31 -0800 Received: from hawk.hcsc.com (ns.ccur.com [207.49.146.1]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA16374 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:29:44 -0800 Received: from amber-34.ssd.hcsc.com by hawk.hcsc.com (5.61/harris-5.1) id AA09924; Tue, 4 Feb 97 16:29:42 -0500 Received: by amber.ssd.hcsc.com (5.61/CX/UX-5.0) id AA05537; Tue, 4 Feb 97 16:29:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9702042129.AA05537@amber.ssd.hcsc.com> In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970204192359.010fc05c@pure.com> References: <2.2.32.19970204192359.010fc05c@pure.com> Reply-To: Tom.Horsley@mail.ccur.com From: tom@amber.ssd.hcsc.com (Tom Horsley) To: Phil Goodwin Cc: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Telnet? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 16:29:35 -0500 >...or that a console mode telnet program could be written and used... I haven't tried it, but Kermit95 is a win32 console app that supports telnet as well as modem communications. It might be possible to use it within emacs (kermit info can be found at http://www.columbia.edu - follow the kermit links when you get there). -- Tom.Horsley@mail.ccur.com or Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net Work: Concurrent Computers, 2101 W. Cypress Creek Rd. Ft. Lauderdale FL 33309 The 2 most important political web sites: http://www.vote-smart.org (Project Vote Smart), and http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/TomHorsley (Me!) From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Feb 4 14:25:23 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 4" "February" "1997" "16:50:24" "-0500" "Russell Steinthal" "rms39@columbia.edu" "<199702042150.QAA11844@mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu>" "43" "Re: Telnet?" "^From:" nil nil "2" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id OAA21539 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:25:23 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id OAA16749 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:25:22 -0800 Received: from mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.143]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id NAA18038 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:27 -0800 Received: from condor.wien.rhno.columbia.edu (condor.wien.rhno.columbia.edu [128.59.135.20]) by mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11844 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:50:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702042150.QAA11844@mailrelay1.cc.columbia.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: Columbia University Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) From: "Russell Steinthal" To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Telnet? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:50:24 -0500 On 4 Feb 97 at 11:23, Phil Goodwin wrote: > The FAQ says that there is really no way to run a telnet session from within > NT EMACS. Is this really true? The FAQ suggested that either telnet.el could > be rewritten to handle the telnet session directly or that a console mode > telnet program could be written and used. Has anyone actually done either of > those things since the FAQ was written? I haven't tried to use it with Emacs, but I've been using a beta version of a console mode telnet program which seems to work pretty well (I've had some problems with its ansi/vt100 emulation, but that's about it.) I've included a copy of the release announcement for it below. -Russell Date sent: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:14:24 -0600 To: virtunix@itribe.net From: Brad Johnson Subject: Console Telnet 2.0 beta 3 Send reply to: Brad Johnson I have released beta 3 of Console Telnet. You can download it from my web page at: http://www.chrysalis.org/jbj Please let me know what you think. see ya, Brad Johnson (Please use PGP in e-mail if you can.) jbj@chrysalis.org http://www.chrysalis.org/jbj/ PGP-mail is encouraged ! Key from homepage + servers Key ID = E77819E1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Russell Steinthal =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-ntemacs-users@june Wed Feb 5 08:45:16 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" " 5" "February" "1997" "16:08:23" "+0000" "Francis J. Wright" "F.J.Wright@qmw.ac.uk" nil "15" "Re: Kermit95" "^From:" nil nil "2" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA25855 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:45:16 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id IAA19119 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:45:10 -0800 Received: from gamma.qmw.ac.uk (gamma.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.6.8]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id IAA23713 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:09:25 -0800 Received: from laplace.maths.qmw.ac.uk by gamma.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-QMW; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:09:03 +0000 Received: from centaur.maths.qmw.ac.uk by laplace.maths.qmw.ac.uk; Wed, 5 Feb 97 16:09:02 GMT Message-Id: <32F8B077.36BE@Maths.QMW.ac.uk> Reply-To: F.J.Wright@qmw.ac.uk Organization: Mathematical Sciences, Queen Mary - University of London X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) References: <01BC12E0.BBBF9340@rigel17.wco.com> <9702051307.AA08449@amber.ssd.hcsc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "Dr Francis J. Wright" To: "ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu" Subject: Re: Kermit95 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 16:08:23 +0000 Beware that the Win32 version of Kermit is not available for free, unlike all other versions. It costs of the order of $50. Since it offers a lot of facilities that I no longer use (like the kermit file transfer protocol!) I think that for my purposes the other (virtunix) console-based telnet program is likely to be a better bet. Francis -- Dr Francis J. Wright (Senior Tutor for Mathematics) School of Mathematical Sciences | Email: F.J.Wright@QMW.ac.uk Queen Mary & Westfield College | Telephone: +44 171-975 5453 (direct) Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | Fax: +44 181-981 9587 (dept.) World Wide Web Home Page URL: http://www.maths.qmw.ac.uk/~fjw/ From owner-ntemacs-users@june Tue Feb 4 22:39:01 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 4" "February" "1997" "22:10" "PST" "Hugh Daschbach" "hugh@ccss.com" nil "7" "RE: Telnet?" "^From:" nil nil "2" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with SMTP id WAA29148 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:39:01 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id WAA16787 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:38:59 -0800 Received: from ni.net (ni1.ni.net [192.215.247.1]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id WAA27055 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:10:15 -0800 Received: from ccss.ccss.com (root@ccss.ccss.com [206.16.244.14]) by ni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11243; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by ccss.ccss.com (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0vs0YZ-0009GZC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 22:10 PST Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BC12E0.BBBF9340@rigel17.wco.com> References: <01BC12E0.BBBF9340@rigel17.wco.com> From: Hugh Daschbach To: "Earl F. Faneuf Jr." cc: "ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu" Subject: RE: Telnet? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 22:10 PST > This reference in the Columbia Univ library is not obvious to me. For = > one they have a horrendous web site if you are looking for kermit. If = > you have a better pointer, it might be nicer for us to locate it that = > way. Please take a quick look at the page you referenced. I suspect they = > have changed the way it looks since you last visited their web site. Try http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From naftali@harmonic.co.il Wed May 28 11:34:30 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "28" "May" "1997" "21:31:39" "+0300" "naftali@harmonic.co.il" "naftali@harmonic.co.il" "<338C7A0B.1C83@harmonic.co.il>" "31" "telnet in win95-emacs" "^From:" nil nil "5" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from sun.harmonic.co.il (sun.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.3]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id LAA28336 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 11:34:25 -0700 Received: from naftali.harmonic.co.il (modem3.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.8]) by sun.harmonic.co.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA05882 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 21:32:38 +0200 (GMT+0200) Message-ID: <338C7A0B.1C83@harmonic.co.il> Reply-To: naftali@harmonic.co.il Organization: Harmonic Lightwaves X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Naftali To: voelker@cs.washington.edu Subject: telnet in win95-emacs Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:31:39 +0300 I've seen the following explanation in your site ************************************************** How do I use telnet with Emacs? As far as I know, there is no telnet client that you can successfully use as a subprocess to Emacs, and so telnet mode does not work. Most telnet clients for Windows are GUI apps that use their own windows; Emacs requires a console app that works with pipes. To get telnet working with Emacs, I see two possibilities. One is to implement a version of telnet.el that talks the telnet protocol directly (c.f. the gnus implementation), skipping the telnet program altogether. The other possibility is to implement a console version of telnet. Chris Szurgot has a console app telnet on his ftp server (see ftp://ftp.itribe.net/pub/virtunix/telc10a.zip), but it unfortunately uses direct console input and output. This version can be hacked to use stdin and stdout, and then could be used as an Emacs subprocess. ********************************************************************* I hacked that version of emacs (telc10a.zip written by Igor Milavec) to work with stdin and stdout but without handling of Escape Sequences ( I don't use them ), It works great from inside emacs as a comint-subprocess or from a shell inside emacs. If it can help I can send you a copy. Bye, Naftali.