From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Oct 28 03:19:00 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "28" "October" "1996" "11:38:18" "+0100" "Frederic Corne" "frederic.corne@erli.fr" nil "24" "Pb of crlf with Samba and untranslate" "^From:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with SMTP id DAA24308 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:19:00 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id DAA24432 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:18:59 -0800 Received: from polaris.gsi.fr (polaris.gsi.fr [150.175.128.2]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.6/7.2ju) with ESMTP id CAA22938 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 02:39:37 -0800 Received: from erli.fr ([150.175.65.76]) by polaris.gsi.fr (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00381 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:40:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from orme.sunserv by erli.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05437; Mon, 28 Oct 96 11:38:20 +0100 Received: by orme.sunserv (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06096; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:38:18 +0100 Message-Id: <9610281038.AA06096@orme.sunserv> Reply-To: frederic.corne@erli.fr From: Frederic Corne To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: Pb of crlf with Samba and untranslate Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:38:18 +0100 I have installed Samba 1.9.16p7 on my unix box and I use untranslate.el with emacs19.31.1 on my NT machine. (load "untranslate") (add-untranslated-filesystem "E:") at the top of my .emacs file When I read and write a simple file ( for ex a README file) all are OK. No crlf before and after. But when the file is of a particular mode (c, c++, text, ...) the read is correct ( no crlf) but when I save the file after modification, crlf is added. Any idea ? FC -- **** Frederic CORNE GSI-ERLI frederic.corne@erli.fr **** From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Jul 8 18:15:24 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Tue" " 9" "July" "1996" "10:32:24" "+1000" "Adrian Tulloch" "adrian@mpce.mq.edu.au" nil "42" "Dealing with Unix file systems" "^From:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id SAA04946 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:15:23 -0700 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id SAA25727 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:15:21 -0700 Received: from krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au (krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.240.12]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.7.5/7.2ju) with SMTP id RAA01738 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:36:38 -0700 Received: from adrian.mpce.mq.edu.au (adrian.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.245.25]) by krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA23244 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:36:36 +1000 Received: by adrian.mpce.mq.edu.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6D81.EBE6F090@adrian.mpce.mq.edu.au>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:32:25 +1000 Message-ID: <01BB6D81.EBE6F090@adrian.mpce.mq.edu.au> Encoding: 42 TEXT From: Adrian Tulloch To: "'NT Emacs Users'" Subject: Dealing with Unix file systems Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:32:24 +1000 I guess that we're all familiar with the problems caused by different line-end conventions in the Dos and Unix worlds: Dos uses CR-LF to mark the end of a line, and Unix uses just LF. NT Emacs currently takes an "all or nothing" approach to this problem. You can say that *all* your file systems are unix, with (using-unix-filesystems t), otherwise they're *all* assumed to be dos-like systems. This is something that I guess many people would like to see fixed, however, it's likely that different people will want this fixed in different ways. To start the ball rolling I'll tell you how I've fixed the problem for myself. If you see a better way, let me know, and I'll implement, otherwise I'll submit my code to Andrew and Geoff for Emacs 19.32. There's a useful API in Win32 called GetVolumeInformation(). This, amongst other things, returns a string representing the type of the file system. I've put a wrapper around this function, and made it a Lisp primitive: (win32-get-volume-type "c:\\") returns "NTFS", for a NTFS file system, "FAT" for a FAT file system, and, more importantly, "Samba" if the drive is mapped to a Unix share via Samba. After this lisp function is available, it's easy to add a write-file hook which looks at the destination we're saving the file in, and saves it as a Dos or unix text file, depending on the type of the file system. There's no need for the user to maintain a table of drive-letter file system correspondences; Emacs can work out the type of file system for itself. Does anyone see any problems with this approach? Personally, I only see one problem. It's possible that GetVolumeInformation() doesn't return useful results for non-Samba unix file systems, such as systems mounted with an NFS client for NT. If the API doesn't return a unique string for these file systems, Emacs won't be able to work out that these disks are unix disks. However, I don't' have access to any of these more exotic file systems, so I can't test this. If anybody out there is using this sort of configuration, I'd appreciate it if you could send me a reply, so we can work out how to test this. As I said earlier, if you can see a better way to deal with this problem, let me know, and I'll change my code. Otherwise I'll send my current fix to Geoff and Andrew. Adrian From eric@globalnet.co.uk Wed Nov 20 03:38:28 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Wed" "20" "November" "1996" "11:40:09" "GMT" "Eric Barton" "eric@globalnet.co.uk" "<199611201140.LAA29622@gollum.globalnet.co.uk>" "29" "Binary/Text files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from gollum.globalnet.co.uk (gollum.globalnet.co.uk [194.126.80.109]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with ESMTP id DAA13784 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 03:38:27 -0800 Received: from EBPC (client8536.globalnet.co.uk [194.126.85.54]) by gollum.globalnet.co.uk (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA29622; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:40:09 GMT Message-Id: <199611201140.LAA29622@gollum.globalnet.co.uk> From: Eric Barton To: voelker@cs.washington.edu cc: eric@globalnet.co.uk Subject: Binary/Text files Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:40:09 GMT First let me congratulate you on providing an *EXCELLENT* service. Emacs on NT is a real life saver for people moving over from UNIX. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you:) I've come across a "feature" that causes binary files to become cluttered with ^M when an NT text file is included. I'm using untranslate.el for files on my UNIX server, but when I include an NT text file, the whole file gets treated like an NT text file. I guess the problem comes down to 'insert-file-contents modifying the attributes of the whole file (buffer?), when it reads something in; I would have thought it should just affect the processing of the included region. Maybe the text/binary processing should be decided both as the file is read (to maybe strip ^M) and saved (to maybe add ^M). In GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (i386-*-nt4.0) of Thu Aug 29 1996 on BANANA-FISH configured using `configure NT' -- Cheers, Eric --------------------------------------------------- |Eric Barton Barton Software | |9 York Gardens | |Clifton Tel : +44 117 974 2587 | |Bristol BS8 4LL Fax : +44 117 974 2587 | |United Kingdom E-Mail: eric@globalnet.co.uk| --------------------------------------------------- From eric@globalnet.co.uk Thu Nov 21 07:00:21 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil t nil nil nil nil] [nil "Thu" "21" "November" "1996" "14:58:33" "GMT" "Eric Barton" "eric@globalnet.co.uk" "<199611211502.PAA07129@gollum.globalnet.co.uk>" "26" "Re: Binary/Text files" "^From:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from gollum.globalnet.co.uk (gollum.globalnet.co.uk [194.126.80.109]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3/7.2ju) with ESMTP id HAA02316 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:00:19 -0800 Received: from stegeosaurus (client8463.globalnet.co.uk [194.126.84.99]) by gollum.globalnet.co.uk (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA07129 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:02:45 GMT Message-Id: <199611211502.PAA07129@gollum.globalnet.co.uk> Received: by stegeosaurus (5.x) id AA01456; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:58:33 GMT In-Reply-To: <199611210732.XAA29015@joker.cs.washington.edu> (message from Geoff Voelker on Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:25:10 -0800 (PST)) From: Eric Barton To: voelker@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: Binary/Text files Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:58:33 GMT Geoff, Just an additional note... 1/ Do find-file on an NT text file 2/ Save it onto a UNIX file system (with untranslate.el loaded) 3/ Do revert-buffer (lots of ^M-s appear) (2) should not have added the ^M-s on the way out? Isn't the file on the O/S the only thing that has a type? All the stripping/adding ^M is surely meant to convert from typed file to generic buffer. -- Respectfully, Eric --------------------------------------------------- |Eric Barton Barton Software | |9 York Gardens | |Clifton Tel : +44 117 974 2587 | |Bristol BS8 4LL Fax : +44 117 974 2587 | |United Kingdom E-Mail: eric@globalnet.co.uk| ---------------------------------------------------