From owner-ntemacs-users@june Mon Dec 30 13:08:50 1996 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" "30" "December" "1996" "15:27:00" "-0500" "bill@attmail.com" "bill@attmail.com" nil "36" "vm-pop and text crash box files" "^From:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from joker.cs.washington.edu (joker.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.42]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id NAA00402 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:08:50 -0800 Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by joker.cs.washington.edu (8.6.12/7.2ws+) with ESMTP id NAA17202 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:08:48 -0800 Received: from hogw2.att.com (hogw2.att.com [204.179.186.34]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id MAA29010 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:31:52 -0800 Received: from lynxhub.ho.att.com by hoig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id PAA02522; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:25:11 -0500 Received: from CARPENTER.cis.att.com ([135.46.61.210]) by lynxhub.ho.att.com (5.x/EMS-1.2 sol2) id AA23631; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:27:02 -0500 Message-Id: <9612302027.AA23631@lynxhub.ho.att.com> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.1 (via feedmail 3 Q) WJC Original-From: bill@attmail.com (WJCarpenter) Reply-To: bill@attmail.com (WJCarpenter) From: bill@attmail.com To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Cc: bug-vm@uunet.uu.net, bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu Subject: vm-pop and text crash box files Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:27:00 -0500 GNUemacs 19.34 on Win95; VM 5.96 (beta). When vm-pop reads messages, it accumulates them in a scratch buffer and then writes the buffer to the VM crash box. NTemacs can decide on whether a file is binary or text (in the DOS sense) based on a regexp look at the filename. Unfortunately, this doesn't work (as far as I can tell) with buffers not affiliated with files. The end result is that when VM does the write-region in to the crash box, there is a good chance of it treating it like a text file, thereby putting back the extra CRs that vm-pop goes to the trouble to strip. (Whether it treats the crash box as binary or text depends on individual configuration.) My workaround for this is to explicitly type the buffer as binary when it is created. I now have a section like this in vm-pop.el's vm-pop-move-mail: ;; get the trace buffer (setq process-buffer (get-buffer-create (format "trace of POP session to %s" host))) ;; clear the trace buffer of old output (save-excursion (set-buffer process-buffer) ;; bill@att.com ... make trace buffer binary to avoid extra ^M crud (if (boundp 'buffer-file-type) (setq buffer-file-type t)) ;; bill@att.com (erase-buffer)) If anyone knows of a solution for this that doesn't require changing VM code (e.g., a way to type buffers by buffer name instead of filename), I'd love to hear it. -- bill@attmail.com LZ 1C-320 bill@att.com (Voice/Fax) +1.908.576.2932 AT&T Labs / AT&T WorldNet Service From bill@attmail.com Mon Jan 6 11:07:04 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Mon" " 6" "January" "1997" "10:30:41" "-0500" "bill@attmail.com" "bill@attmail.com" nil "17" "Re: vm-pop and text crash box files" "^From:" nil nil "1" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from cagw1.att.com ([192.128.52.89]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.3+CSE/7.2ju) with SMTP id LAA01332 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:07:03 -0800 Received: from lynxhub.ho.att.com by caig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id KAA16475; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:27:30 -0500 Received: from CARPENTER.cis.att.com ([135.46.61.210]) by lynxhub.ho.att.com (5.x/EMS-1.2 sol2) id AA28588; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:30:43 -0500 Message-Id: <9701061530.AA28588@lynxhub.ho.att.com> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.1 (via feedmail 7-beta[work-in-progress] I) WJC Original-From: bill@attmail.com (WJCarpenter) In-Reply-To: Geoff Voelker's note of 15:51:57, 4 Jan 1997 References: <9612302027.AA23631@lynxhub.ho.att.com> <199701042351.PAA25381@joker.cs.washington.edu> Reply-To: bill@attmail.com (WJCarpenter) From: bill@attmail.com To: voelker@cs.washington.edu Subject: Re: vm-pop and text crash box files Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:30:41 -0500 gv> There is no way to type buffers by name instead of filename. But gv> why do the contents of the scratch buffer have to be written out gv> as binary? Strictly speaking, they don't. But, I have the filename typing set to treat all my mailboxes as binary. That way, they mail folder format is exactly identical to the UNIX version. I have often just copied a mail folder one way or the other. As far as I know, VM behaves OK if the file is text, but when I claim it to be binary, it displays the extra ^Ms. -- bill@attmail.com LZ 1C-320 bill@att.com (Voice/Fax) +1.908.576.2932 AT&T Labs / AT&T WorldNet Service