Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 09:47:17 -0500
To: iab@ISI.EDU, postel@ISI.EDU
From: abel@bellcore.com (Abel Weinrib)
Subject: Minutes for September 23 IAB Teleconference (FINAL)


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MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 23 1994 IAB TELECONFERENCE

PRESENT:
Steve Crocker
Robert Elz
Elise Gerich
Phill Gross
Christian Huitema
John Klensin
Jon Postel
Yakov Rekhter
John Romkey
Dave Sincoskie
Abel Weinrib
Lixia Zhang


NEXT MEETING:
During the information infrastructure workshop:  Thursday October 13, 7-9
AM EDT with remote phone hookup for those not attending the workshop.

NEW ACTION ITEMS:
*  Elise Gerich:  Submit to the RFC editor the document on assignment of
global addresses and the use of 1597.
*  John Romkey: Send a draft agenda for the workshop to the ii-workshop
list for discussion. [DONE]
* Lixia Zhang, Yakov Rekhter and Phill Gross:  Write discussion paper on
the impact of commercialization on the Internet.
* Christian Huitema:  Write discussion paper on the integration of services
and its impact on usage and models of usage.
* Yakov Rekhter:  Revise RFC 1560.
OLD ACTION ITEMS:
* Christian Huitema and Steve Crocker: prepare a brief note outlining
follow-up to security retreat.
* Yakov Rekhter:  Prepare a review of "routing architecture for a
multi-provider, international internet."

1.  Agree on the agenda
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2.  Closure on Elise's document
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Elise Gerich did not take a message to the RIPE working group on local
registries because the IAB had not reached consensus by the time she
departed for Europe.  She heard that the working group felt that the
authors of RFCs 1597 and 1627 should combine them into a new RFC.

Consensus was reached that Elise's document should be forwarded to the RFC
editor for publication.  The goal of the document is:  "To reiterate that
IP network numbers should be unique and people should be able to get them
when they want.  The principles stated in 1597 are no substitute for unique
network numbers in the internet."
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3.  Workshop preparation
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A discussion of how to set the agenda for the information infrastructure
concluded with the agreement that John Romkey should send out a draft
agenda to the mailing list for discussion.

The goals of the workshop were outlined as:
        communicating to the IAB about infrastructure issues
        communicating to applications people about Internet issues
        defining architectural problems and coming up with solutions
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4.  State of the vision
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The questions of "Why are people asking for a vision?" and "Is it clear or
not?" led to a discussion of what the vision might be.  One suggestion was:

"Connect every computer to the Internet with the TCP/IP suite and make the
world a better place."

However, this brought up previous work done in the IETF community on a
multi-protocol Internet, in particular RFC 1560 by Rekhter and Leiner.  It
was suggested that this RFC could be revised to reflect the results of the
IPv6 work, which positions IPv6 to absorb other existing protocols.

One area where it was agreed that the "vision" is unclear is the impact of
commercialization, which is expected to substantially change how the
Internet operates.  This might be a good topic for the next IAB workshop.
To start the investigation of this topic, Lixia, Yakov and Phill offered to
write a discussion paper on this topic.

Another important area for the vision is the effect of the integration of
services on the Internet.  Christian offered to write a discussion paper on
this topic.

Finally, it was agreed that another paper should be written focusing on the
principles of the Internet for newcomers.  This topic is still waiting for
volunteers.

Further discussion of "the vision" is clearly required and will be on the
agenda for the next meeting.
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5.  RPC/XDR
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Dave Crocker sent a message to the IAB list requesting that the IAB look
into the handling of the negotiations between Sun and ISOC regarding
RPC/XDR.  While this is primarily an IESG issue, he is asking for a review
of the process by the IAB.

The negotiations appear to be stalled, with the initiative having been
taken by the lawyers on both sides.  On the other hand, the technical
players still desire a positive outcome.  Questions that must be addressed
forthwith are whether Sun wants to put the technology in the public domain
or transfer it to someone (e.g., ISOC), as well as issues of trademark
issues and possible pending patents.

Christian will act as the IAB contact on this issue.

=============================== These minutes were prepared by Abel
Weinrib, abel@bellcore.com.  An online copy of these and other minutes
are available in the host ftp.isi.edu in the directory pub/IAB. 
(URL = ftp://ftp.isi.edu/pub/IAB)